This is a blog for publishing my own experiences and comments. Welcome comments from others as well. 我在这里表达我自己的观点和体验。欢迎评论。
办了16年的纽约华夏分校, 2012年7月27日由法庭宣布解体,学校一分为二。
这个博客的使命已经结束或许该改个新的名字了。
It's too early to think about the fall. I usually like this blog owner's writings, but this posting wasn't the best. It started with a few interesting passages, then as if he's got a little too much to drink himself, it ended without much of a point. The inferences are not quite connected. Still it's a good try. Maybe next time drink a lot more while writing and let us know what you really think.
Try it. How many signature did you get? Still 12. By now, you should know how many supporters you have.
Even people like Hang Gao, Ergang Shi, Jin Lin, Zuojing Cao, Feng Lou, Zhiqiang Guan, Qian Lou, Lin Shi, Jiahui Ge, Michael Wu will not sign your petition for removing Zhu Li. You know why, though they support you to certain aspect, they are still decent people and know you did many wrong things and don't want to put down their names with your low lifes.
When people exercise their right to sue for the benefit of the school, this woman says it's 国民党白色恐怖. When the board members did the opposite of what's in the bylaws after legal opinions pointed out they're opposites, this woman says it's good faith. My view - only one v - is that this woman hated the lawsuit because it destroyed her chance of getting elected into the board herself. Power hungry four board members' activities are to make people follow their directions and to tell people who's in charge. That means the illegal activities are for their own benefit. The benefit doesn't have to be tangible. The distorted facts, misunderstood law and ill conceived logic aren't even worth my time to dispute. How could the movie filled brain begin to understand?
Everyone has a brain, so your assertion is medically implausible. The question is what's inside of your brain. I say your brain is full of stupid movies and hatred that blurred your simple moral. A judgment from the court will certainly knock you all into semi consciousness and then you can begin to wonder, maybe.
Dear friends, Everyone know the school is pretty chaotic. The school belongs to all members, if nobody cares about the school, and we can only accept whatever is being offered, which may not be to the best interest of parents. I don't know too much about the history and not interested to know either. I am sure there is a lot baggage there. However there are two things bother me the most in the past few months:
The school already have a voting committee for Bylaw and the whole process is fairly transparent. Without going through any normal legal procedure, either you have to find the current voting committee is illegal and cancel it before you can set up another one, the Board Chairman set up a voting committee themselves and without any supervision. If anyone can do this in school, how chaotic it will be. ByLaw means " By the Law". Everyone has to follow it before the new bylaw is passed. ByLaw states 5 board members need to be present to call a Board meeting. So far there have not been anytime we have more than 4 members for the board meeting and the board chairman made a lot of statement claiming that is Board's decision. As the Board chairman, he supposes to have the best knowledge about bylaw and he is the one violates it the most.
Below is an email from a parent in my son's class. It propose a temporal solution for now. It is still a draft and I am curious to hear your thoughts on it. 尊重志愿者精神 开放选举 暂缓候选人遴选 学年临近尾声,又到了选举校长、家长会长的时刻。值此多事之秋,为避免因董事会选定候选人而重演去年开启纷争的一幕,我们呼吁大家签名,暂缓实施董事会有权选定不超过两对候选人的规定, 让全体家长直接选举校长和家长会长。 大家都知道,学校目前政治上处于一种混乱状态,很多人都不愿在这种乱局中出来参选。值此多事之秋,愿意参选的志愿者都值得大家的尊重和敬佩,董事会也没必要 再去限制。去年因实施候选人遴选,与志愿者精神相抵触,引发了社区分裂。前车之鉴,后事之师。华夏要前进,一定要避免重蹈覆辙,再一次伤害志愿者精神。让 全体家长直接选举校长和家长会长,这样才能真正做到让家长充分行使民主权利。从操作上看,多一个候选人只是在选票上多一个名字,不会带来任何问题。 华夏纽约性质上属于全体会员,我们相信董事会将会根据广大家长的呼声来做决策,用他们的智慧,体现领导力。我们诉求的不是修改该款条文,因为修改校章涉及方方面面,需要时间讨论。我们诉求的只是根据今年特殊情况,暂缓实施该款条文的相关规定(Suspension),这是全体会员行使最高权力的体现,符合组织运行惯例,并具备可操作性。 请您签名支持我们的诉求。您的支持,将帮助我们的学校避免纷争。You can make a difference! 请行使您神圣的权利,让我们行动起来,保护学校! 请回复本电子邮件"YES" and sign both your and your spouse's names if you support this proposal. 您的姓名和邮箱将严格保密。除了本邮件的发送人和PTA验证所需,任何人都不能接触您的个人资料。 Thanks a lot! Linda =========
========== Gary Guo, Shengjing Li, Minghui Lei, Peiwin Yang and Ching Zhou
vs
Alan Yuan Wang, Xiaodi Cai and John Does 1-10
June 17, 2011
The Supreme Court of the State of New York, Westchester County, Index No: 12335-11
http://wro.westchesterclerk.com/legalsearch.aspx#
Guo et al stated:
Complaint #12. Defendant Wang is neither an employee nor a director of the School. He was chosen as its unpaid principal by the Board in the spring of 2010 for a one-year term. Wang's term as principal was scheduled to expire on June 19, 2011, the last day of the School's 2010-2011 academic year. No vote was ever taken to extend or renew his term beyond that date. Reply Replies
June 18, 2011 PTA Chair announced that PTA would not conduct the proposed illegal election.
-- On Sat, 6/18/11, Lee zhu wrote:
From: Lee zhu Subject: PTA's stand on reqest of the general eclection on June 19 To: "Alan Yuan Wang (alawang)" , "Vivienne Wang", "HXAdmin" , "HXNY PTA" , "HXBoard" Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 11:58 AM Hi Alan,
Can you forward this message to all members? Thanks. Li Zhu
PTA will not conduct the election requested by Shengjing Li.
1.) June 19, 2011 is the last day of school year 2010-2011. The election would be against the bylaws. So PTA will not violate the bylaws to conduct such election.
2.) The recent actions taken by the Board do not comply with the by-law. Specifically, the procedures for the elections have been disregarded and the by-laws have been violated. As such, until such time as procedures have been put into place which comply with the by-law, PTA will not conduct the election.
Thank you for your understanding at this difficult time of HXNY and please stand up for our kids and our school.
June 18, 2011 PTA consistently opposed to the 6/19 election.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: HXNY ADMIN Date: 2011/6/18 Subject: Urgent Notice from HXNY Administration & PTA To:
Dear HXNY Parents/Members,
The HXNY Board led by Shengjing Li is pursuing an election of school leaders from their hand picked candidates tomorrow, June 19th, 2011. Based on the current HXNY Bylaws, we deem that this proposed election is illegal and its results invalid. We urge all parents to boycott this illegal election. We reserve rights to pursing all possible legal means to challenge this proposed election and its results.
Members are the highest legislative body of the School. We will fight to safeguard this central tenet of our school. We are confident that we will prevail in the end.
HXNY Administrative Team HXNY PTA
2.华夏家长会的立场:6/19选举是非法的。
IV. Parent Council Chair’s response to “School Leader Election: Hosted by the Board on Sunday, 06/19”
Dear all members,
This is to respond to the board's Request for election on June 19, 2011.
First I didn't postpone the meeting on June 12. It was the board that delayed the meeting and due to time limit, it was impossible to finish the agenda. It was clear and nobody should try to confuse and mislead members.
It is clear in the bylaws that a meeting of member to elect the principal and the chairperson of the parents council must be held at least one week before the end of each school year (5.02.1). Based on this, parent council will not violate the bylaws to conduct the voting for such illegal election as it would be the last day of this school year.
Bylaws 5.03.7 says that a voting committee shall be appointed by the PC to conduct the voting. Based on this, any voting not conducted by PC appointed voting committee is invalid and illegal.
June 20, 2011, PTA rejected 6/19 election results.
The following is a response from Mr. Li Zhu, the Chairman of Parent Council, to Mr. Shengjing Li's email on June 20 titled: “Message from Board: Graduation Ceremony/Track and Field Game/Election on June 19, 2011”. Mr. Li is currently in China due to family emergency.
========================================= Dear all fellow HXNY members,
Last Sunday's election (6/19/2011) is illegal and invalid, because
1.) The board meeting which approved the new pair of candidates on Sunday (6/19/2011) violated the bylaws which requires at minimum 5 board directors without conflict of interest conduct election related any businesses.
2.) Based on HXNY current bylaws any voting must be conducted by the HXNY Parent Council. HXNY has total 918 members, the Sunday's election (6/19/2011) trampled the will and right of the majority of HXNY members.
Parent Council, on behalf of most HXNY members, condemns this illegal action, and rejects this election result.
Regards, Li Zhu, Parent Council Chairman 06/20/2011
Illegal Hosting Election y the Board (Should be hosted by the PTA)
----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Shengjing Li XXX@gmail.com> To: Alan Yuan Wang (alawang); Zhu Li Cc: hxny-board@external.cisco.com; HXNY PTA ; hxnyadmin Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 7:07:45 PM Subject: School Leader Election: Hosted by the Board Alan and LI,
The notice for election is updated due to the feedback. Would you please help send it to all HXNY members?
Thanks, Shengjing
School Leader Election: Hosted by the Board
Dear HXNY members,
The Board will be the only responsible body hosting the election this Sunday for HXNY, as required by the bylaw.
Per Board 6/9 Resolution, a new nomination process has been opened up for one additional pair of candidates for this year's election.
1) The nomination deadline has been extended to 9:30AM, June 12. Any school member can nominate candidates. Each candidate must be clearly designated as for which position such candidate is running. The nominated pairs should be prepared to present their plans at the open meeting on Sunday, June 12 at 9:30am in CLA 200 of WCC 2) The Board will review and approve one additional pair of candidates for School Principal and Chair of Parents Council. 3) Only the Board Approved candidates can be added onto the Ballot, any ballot with unapproved candidates’ names on it will deem to be invalid. 4) In case no one gets the simple majority votes, the board will call for the same election process next week until the School Principal and Chair of Parents Council are elected.
Here is a quick note on Sunday’s election: • Venue (地点): CLA 200 of WCC • Time (时间): 9:30am – 12:45pm• To vote, you need to present your driver licenses. Agenda as follows: 9:45 am - 10:15am Board review and approve new candidates 10:15am – 10:20am Board vote 10:20 am - 11:00 am Candidates present their plans for next school year 11:00am - 11:20am Q & A 11:20 pm – 12:45pm Distribute and cast ballots. Ballots will be counted. The membership consists of adult students (18 years old and over) and parents or guardians of non-adult students. Please bring your drivers’ licenses. Proxy is acceptable. We look forward to your participation on Sunday 6/12/2011
Board Member Pointed out the Nomination and Election Process are Illegal
----- Forwarded Message ---- From: gutuan zheng To: Alan Yuan Wang (alawang) < >; Shengjing Li Cc: chz ; hxny-board@external.cisco.com; hxny-admin@external.cisco.com; hxny-pta@external.cisco.com; Dapeng Hu Sent: Sat, June 18, 2011 8:55:10 AM Subject: Re: For the records. Sehngjing,
• The second pair of candidates is not eligible candidate, has not and shall not be able to receive the approval from the board. Even by the latest individually set deadline, there had been no eligible nomination sent to the board. Why the board needs to have a meeting to review it?. • The last minute pushing of electionb will divide HXNY: After refusing two settlement proposals by neutral party to stabilize school in last two days, the board is not showing honesty in solving the current crisis for the best interest of school. Instead, the board insists in pushing ahead its bylaw-violating plan, and pushing the school further to chaos and division.
Gutuan
--- On Fri, 6/17/11, Shengjing Li wrote:
From: Shengjing Li Subject: Re: For the records. To: "Alan Yuan Wang (alawang)" Cc: "chz" , hxny-board@external.cisco.com, hxny-admin@external.cisco.com, hxny-pta@external.cisco.com, "Dapeng Hu" Date: Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:20 PM Alan, I would like to formally request for distributing the following message to all HXNY members. Thanks, --Shengjing
Dear HXNY members,
The school leader election scheduled on Sunday, June 12 was unexpectedly delayed, then postponed until June 19, 2011 per request from PC chairman Zhu Li. During the Q & A session on June 12 conference, your voices are loud and clear that HXNY members want an election and make their own choices of school leaders for the next school year. The school Board has heard your voices and will honor its responsibility for an election on June 19, 2011.
Per Board resolution on June 9, 2011, a new nomination process was opened up for one additional pair of candidates for this year's election. Parents Dapeng Hu and Yawen Liu has submitted their vision and working plan to the school board for supporting their candidacy. They are also committed to do their best helping the school to overcome this difficult time. Board shall review their candidacy before the general election on Sunday, June 19, 2011. If it’s approved, we shall submit the additional pair of candidates for members to vote and make the final decision.
The graduation ceremony will be held in the White Plains high school auditorium. The annual ceremony is the day for HXNY families to celebrate the achievement of our children. We will keep the election activities outside of the auditorium.
Here is the timeline on Sunday’s election:
• Venue (地点): Hallway outside of the White Plains high school auditorium • Time (时间): 9:10 am – 12:30 pm
Agenda as follows:
9:10 am - 9:40 am Board review and approve additional candidates 9:40 am - 10:30 am Candidates present their plans followed by Q & A 10:30 am - 12:30 am Distribute and cast ballots. Ballots will be counted.
Notes on rules: 1) Only the Board approved candidates can be added onto the Ballot, any ballot with unapproved candidates’ names on it will deem to be invalid. 2) The membership consists of adult students (18 years old and over) and parents or guardians of non-adult students, and permanent members. 3) To vote, you need to present your driver licenses. 4) Proxy is acceptable.
We look forward to your participation on Sunday, June 19, 2011.
June 20, 2011, Li Shengjing announced 6/19 illegal election results
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: shengjing li Date: Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:33 AM Subject: Message from Board: Graduation Ceremony/Track and Field Game/Election on June 19, 2011 To: hxny-board@external.cisco.com, hxnyadmin , HXNY PTA
Dear HXNY members:
Sunday, June 19, 2011 is a big day for Huaxia Chinese School of New York. The graduation and award ceremony was smooth and applaudable; Our children in the track and field games showed their energy and excitement; The general election for the Principal and Parent Council chair was completed orderly.
……
We would also like to express our appreciation to all the volunteers for their help in conducting the general election. Special thanks to the voting committee made of PTA class parents Min Xu, Vicky Lee, Dachun Yao, Zuojun Cao, Gang Xu for conducting the voting process. Special thanks to Mingjiang Gao, Hang Gao and Shou Wang for their observation of the ballot counting.
Thanks to all candidates for contributing their ideas to build a better school. We herein formally announce the voting result of the 2011 election as follows:
Total number of votes: 201 (exceeding the quorum requirement)
Number of Votes for candidates Dapeng Hu/Yawen Liu: 146 Number of Votes for candidates Minghui Lei/Mark Yin: 54 Number of invalid votes: 1
As per simple majority rule, team Dapeng Hu/Yawen Liu has been elected to be the Principal and Parent Council Chair for the school year 2011-2012. Congratulations to Dapeng and Yawen.
We believe that this new team of leaders will unite and strengthen our HXNY school and community.
Best regards,
Shengjing Li,
On behalf of Board Directors Huaxia Chinese School of New York
Arbitrary Changes to Candidate Nomination Deadline
The 5 board members led by Shengjing Li arbitrarily changed the candidate nomination deadline three (3) time to put their hand-picked pair as the second pair of candidates, along with the first pair of their hand picked candidates, on the ballot and then claimed that they provided members with choices for a contested election.
1. First Deadline: 11:59 pm Friday, June 10, 2011
----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Shengjing Li To: cathy gao Cc: HXAdmin ; HXBoard ; HXPTA ; Student Corner Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 11:25:08 PM Subject: Re: Preview for HXNY newsletter 6/12
Cathy, Please add the Board Notice into the newsletter. Thanks, --Shengjing
=============================================================================================== Board Notice for Election:
While the majority of our Board members did not vote for one particular pair of candidates on May 22, the Board is never against the concept of a contested election with two pairs of candidates in general, and never had the desire or intention not to give school Members a choice. In light of the school Members poll on June 5, the majority of Board Members voted "Yes" for a Board resolution to open up this year’s election for additional nominations. Following the school Bylaws, “Any school member can nominate candidates.” The additional nomination deadline is by 11:59 pm Friday, June 10, 2011. The Board will hold an open meeting on Sunday, June 12 to review and approve an additional pair of candidates for school Principal and Chair of Parents Council for the next school year. After the Board approval, the two pairs of candidates will be submitted to school Members for voting on the same day following the Board meeting. The open Board meeting will start at 10:00 am and the meeting location will be confirmed by Principal Alan Wang.
----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Shengjing Li To: cathy gao ; Alan Yuan Wang (alawang) Cc: HXAdmin ; HXBoard ; HXPTA Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 2:20:33 PM Subject: Re: Preview for HXNY newsletter 6/12
Dear Principal Alan Wang,
As the Board's resolution for the election, we need to have an open Board Meeting on Sunday, June 12, 2011. Please help send the following Board Notice for Election to all HXNY members and arrange a classroom for the board meeting.
Thanks,
Shengjing Li, Co-Chair, Board of Directors
============================================================================================= Board Notice for Election:
While the majority of our Board members did not vote for one particular pair of candidates on May 22, the Board is never against the concept of a contested election with two pairs of candidates in general, and never had the desire or intention not to give school Members a choice. In light of the school Members poll on June 5, the majority of Board Members voted "Yes" for a Board resolution to open up this year’s election for additional nominations. Following the school Bylaws, “Any school member can nominate candidates.”
The additional nomination deadline is by 11:59 pm Saturday, June 11, 2011. The Board will hold an open meeting on Sunday, June 12 to review and approve an additional pair of candidates for school Principal and Chair of Parents Council for the next school year. After the Board approval, the two pairs of candidates will be submitted to school Members for voting on the same day following the Board meeting. The location and time for the open Board meeting will follow. Thank you. ==============================================================================================
Arbitrary Changes to Candidate Nomination Deadline
The 5 board members led by Shengjing Li arbitrarily changed the candidate nomination deadline three (3) time to put their hand-picked pair as the second pair of candidates, along with the first pair of their hand picked candidates, on the ballot and then claimed that they provided members with choices for a contested election.
3. Li Changed the deadline to 9:30am Sunday, June 12, 2011
----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Shengjing Li To: Alan Yuan Wang (alawang); Zhu Li Cc: hxny-board@external.cisco.com; HXNY PTA ; hxnyadmin Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 7:07:45 PM Subject: School Leader Election: Hosted by the Board Alan and LI,
The notice for election is updated due to the feedback. Would you please help send it to all HXNY members?
Thanks, Shengjing
School Leader Election: Hosted by the Board
Dear HXNY members,
The Board will be the only responsible body hosting the election this Sunday for HXNY, as required by the bylaw.
Per Board 6/9 Resolution, a new nomination process has been opened up for one additional pair of candidates for this year's election.
1) The nomination deadline has been extended to 9:30AM, June 12. Any school member can nominate candidates. Each candidate must be clearly designated as for which position such candidate is running. The nominated pairs should be prepared to present their plans at the open meeting on Sunday, June 12 at 9:30am in CLA 200 of WCC 2) The Board will review and approve one additional pair of candidates for School Principal and Chair of Parents Council. 3) Only the Board Approved candidates can be added onto the Ballot, any ballot with unapproved candidates’ names on it will deem to be invalid. 4) In case no one gets the simple majority votes, the board will call for the same election process next week until the School Principal and Chair of Parents Council are elected.
Here is a quick note on Sunday’s election: • Venue (地点): CLA 200 of WCC • Time (时间): 9:30am – 12:45pm• To vote, you need to present your driver licenses. Agenda as follows: 9:45 am - 10:15am Board review and approve new candidates 10:15am – 10:20am Board vote 10:20 am - 11:00 am Candidates present their plans for next school year 11:00am - 11:20am Q & A 11:20 pm – 12:45pm Distribute and cast ballots. Ballots will be counted. The membership consists of adult students (18 years old and over) and parents or guardians of non-adult students. Please bring your drivers’ licenses. Proxy is acceptable. We look forward to your participation on Sunday 6/12/2011
Board Member Pointed out the Nomination and Election Process are Illegal
----- Forwarded Message ---- From: gutuan zheng To: Alan Yuan Wang (alawang) < >; Shengjing Li Cc: chz ; hxny-board@external.cisco.com; hxny-admin@external.cisco.com; hxny-pta@external.cisco.com; Dapeng Hu Sent: Sat, June 18, 2011 8:55:10 AM Subject: Re: For the records. Sehngjing,
• The second pair of candidates is not eligible candidate, has not and shall not be able to receive the approval from the board. Even by the latest individually set deadline, there had been no eligible nomination sent to the board. Why the board needs to have a meeting to review it?. • The last minute pushing of electionb will divide HXNY: After refusing two settlement proposals by neutral party to stabilize school in last two days, the board is not showing honesty in solving the current crisis for the best interest of school. Instead, the board insists in pushing ahead its bylaw-violating plan, and pushing the school further to chaos and division.
Gary Guo, Shengjing Li, Minghui Lei, Peiwin Yang and Ching Zhou
vs
Alan Yuan Wang, Xiaodi Cai and John Does 1-10
June 17, 2011
The Supreme Court of the State of New York, Westchester County, Index No: 12335-11
http://wro.westchesterclerk.com/legalsearch.aspx#
Guo et al stated:
Complaint #12. Defendant Wang is neither an employee nor a director of the School. He was chosen as its unpaid principal by the Board in the spring of 2010 for a one-year term. Wang's term as principal was scheduled to expire on June 19, 2011, the last day of the School's 2010-2011 academic year. No vote was ever taken to extend or renew his term beyond that date. Reply Replies
Gary Guo, Shengjing Li, Minghui Lei, Peiwin Yang and Ching Zhou
vs
Alan Yuan Wang, Xiaodi Cai and John Does 1-10
June 17, 2011
The Supreme Court of the State of New York, Westchester County, Index No: 12335-11
http://wro.westchesterclerk.com/legalsearch.aspx#
Guo et al stated:
Complaint #12. Defendant Wang is neither an employee nor a director of the School. He was chosen as its unpaid principal by the Board in the spring of 2010 for a one-year term. Wang's term as principal was scheduled to expire on June 19, 2011, the last day of the School's 2010-2011 academic year. No vote was ever taken to extend or renew his term beyond that date.
Alan is not chosen by the Board! He was elected by 280 votes. What kind of LIARS Gary Guo, Shengjing Li, Qing ZHou, Minghui Lei is!!! I doubt why Alan didn't counter sue. Shame, shame, shame!!!
How could you let someone like Zheng Qi be the principal of a school? She didn't even hesitate using the "B" word in front of school age children. Do you honestly believe this person can qualify to be a principal? It's so unfortunate for the school that she was the dean for many years.
One question for all the candidates is whether they will follow the school bylaws (old or new) and protect its integrity as what Hu/Liu have done? Let's hear their answer and we'll know.
夏天来了,秋天就不远了。 俺要像秋风扫落叶一样,把四董扫进历史垃圾堆。
ReplyDeleteIt's too early to think about the fall. I usually like this blog owner's writings, but this posting wasn't the best. It started with a few interesting passages, then as if he's got a little too much to drink himself, it ended without much of a point. The inferences are not quite connected. Still it's a good try. Maybe next time drink a lot more while writing and let us know what you really think.
Delete夏天来了,秋天就不远了。 俺要像秋风扫落叶一样,把四董扫进历史垃圾堆。
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是啊,博主想诗情画意一下,可给楼上胡家班那文革语言一紧跟,诗意一扫光。再铁的博主,看到流氓们这么没文采,很快也会划请界线的。我可保证这位博主会变得越来越中立,最后还会反戈一击!近朱者红,近墨者黑。物以类聚,人以群分!谁会与胡骗子同道而行,哪天保不证就被他出卖了。
这博主还行。本是胡/刘之流,看了告法庭的东西,怎么也想不通。自己支持的人怎么会是这样的无赖?!于是只能来一首谁也不得罪的朦胧诗,唉。。。
Delete问: 为什么没能通过协商和调解,来解决问题?
Delete答: 修改校章、直选董事是经过去年混乱之后,多数家长的共识。本学年董事会与BAC本着求同存异,一致向前的诚意,一直寻求协商解决问题的途径,并在其他关心校章修改家长的支持下,多次做出让步,妥协。遗憾的是,胡大鹏/刘雅文阳奉阴违,反复无常,甚至出尔反尔,激化矛盾,至今没能协商解决问题。
* 胡/刘多次公开表示支持校章修改,暗地里却处处为难。 例如,不发董事会决议,私自修改BAC通告,不给场地。
* 胡/刘阻挠家长参与新校章初稿的修改,他们在开会时间和地点做手脚。
* 胡/刘反对新校章上反复无常,甚至出尔反尔。他们一会儿反校长、家长会长隔年选举,一会儿反conflict resolution, 一会儿反limited voting, 一会儿反董事会权利太大, 一会儿又要校长任命。 现在我们看清楚了,他们真正反对的是新校章规定的董事会全面普选。
* 董事会5月8日强调将竭力通过校内协商解决问题,化解危机,不首先动用法律手段。但胡/刘一意孤行,竟把董事义工告上法庭,激化矛盾,威胁学校的前景。
问: 在校章修改的过程中,董事会和BAC采取哪些协商的措施?
Delete答:新校章是纽约华夏建校以来,修改时间最长,家长参与最多,修改幅度最大的校章。在八个月中,BAC 广泛听取各方(包括校委会、家长会)意见建议,在坚持原则前提下,做了很多重要调整。例如:
1、在胡大鹏等人的建议下,删去现任校长、家长会长不能当年参见竞选的限制。
2、增加了董事选举limited voting每票选举董事的数量:从1位增加到5位。
3、使dispute resolution成为非强制性。
可惜,所有让步和妥协,还是无法满足胡/刘,他们期望不经选举,自动直接进入董事会。 董事会坚持了董事会、校长和会长必需经过家长全面直选的原则,结果引来了胡/刘针对董事义工的官司。
问: 胡/刘的诉状里,有哪些欺骗家长和法庭、前后矛盾之处?
Delete去年,胡大鹏和刘雅文的竞选宣言是:“当选不是为进董事会”,“支持废除校长家长会长自动进入董事会的制度”。今年,他们告诉家长起诉董事“不是为了我们自己自动进董事会”,同时称要通过法律手段捍卫“我们的正当权益。”
什么是他们的“正当权益”呢?原来还是“自动进董事会”!在起诉四董的状词里, 胡/刘多次声称:
1)在过去的一年里,胡大鹏/刘雅文一直期盼任期满后,自动进入董事会。
2)新校章剥夺了胡大鹏/刘雅文不经选举,自动直接进入董事会的权益。
3)新校章规定的董事普选会给胡大鹏/刘雅文带来不可弥补的伤害, 因为旧校章规定胡大鹏、刘雅文无需选举,自动进入董事会。
问:胡大鹏、刘亚文做了哪些阻碍修改新校章的事?
Delete真相1: 胡、刘反对修改校章委员会(BAC)由中立家长组成。
BAC主席刚一上任,就热情邀请校委会和家长会各派一名代表加盟,希望他们推荐普通家长,不欢迎“头面人物”和“有争议人物”。不料,胡/刘先是推荐了自己,遭婉拒后,又推出两位有争议人物:林女士(曾为校长候选人、高调卷入去年风波)和高先生(非家长会成员,孩子不在校)。经过协商,董事会接受了高先生;希望换下林女士,另寻人选。校委会有十多名成员,不少是新面孔,另寻人选的余地很大。可是胡、刘拒不妥协, 干脆不推荐了,有意让董事会和BAC背上黑锅。于是,“拒绝校委会和家长会成员加入校章修改工作”谣言就出台了,被不断重复,还出现在“罢免朱董事长”的倡议书上。
真相2: 胡、刘垄断mailing list,阻碍BAC与家长直接交流。
董事会依法向胡大鹏要全校mailing list,他拒绝提供。胡大鹏的校委会控制全校资源,控制newsletter。胡/刘发布BAC工作进展内容时,未经BAC主席授权,有意裁剪或扭曲BAC讨论议题。仅举一例:2011年10月20日,胡/刘在未经BAC主席同意下,擅自修改BAC给董事会校章修订进展的报告,断章取义在校刊上发表。
特别指出:胡、刘对家长的态度就是“防”。翻开往年的全校通讯录,上面都印有家长地址。可是今年的通讯录有意隐去地址,居然连董事会名单都未刊印。二人紧抓手里之权,拒绝与全校家长分享,没有同心同德的意识,难怪新校章命运多舛。现在,二人把志愿者告上法庭,走上一条追求权力的不归路。
真相3. 多次拒绝给BAC提供开会场所。
由于胡大鹏的不合作,BAC的很多会议只好在草坪上进行。新校章的初稿完成后,BAC需要举办与家长的交流会。可是,胡大鹏推说“没有空余教室”,并散布谣言说BAC要与孩子抢教室。在热心人帮助下,BAC按时在science102召集了会议,戳破“没有空余教室”的谎言。
1、在胡大鹏等人的建议下,删去现任校长、家长会长不能当年参见竞选的限制。
Delete--这条的针对性也太明显了吧?随便剥夺成员的被选举权,BAC能自圆其说吗?呼吁删去这条的也不仅是胡大鹏吧?
2、增加了董事选举limited voting每票选举董事的数量:从1位增加到5位。
-- 1位改成5位没有改变实质,仍然是Limited Voting。仍然是限制家长们的选举权利。仍然是为了维护小帮派利益。
3、使dispute resolution成为非强制性。
-- 这一条从公布后大家就反对,李建仁一直不肯改。最后送律师审查时,被律师指出与州法矛盾才改为非强制性。这能说明李建仁听取了大家的意见?
只要四董敢用学校的钱打官司,俺立马就签名弹劾朱力。
ReplyDeleteOnly Zhu Li? You have to impeach all four of them!
DeleteTry it. How many signature did you get? Still 12.
DeleteBy now, you should know how many supporters you have.
Even people like Hang Gao, Ergang Shi, Jin Lin, Zuojing Cao, Feng Lou, Zhiqiang Guan, Qian Lou, Lin Shi, Jiahui Ge, Michael Wu will not sign your petition for removing Zhu Li. You know why, though they support you to certain aspect, they are still decent people and know you did many wrong things and don't want to put down their names with your low lifes.
Wake up!!
擒贼先擒王!
Delete俺李盛京,你们要能拉到180票签名弹勀朱立。俺名字倒着写,京盛李!
Delete朱立甭想与俺竟争。 第一次弹俺时,小弟仨小时就拉了200票。第二次弹俺时,小弟三天就拉了400票。要不是他们为了保护被俺背后插刀的“朋友”汪元,俺这董事长早就被赶下台了。俺是“被弹勀大王”京盛李!
大家好,
ReplyDelete有一部电影叫《〈步步惊心〉》,电影没看过,名字记住了。我们中文学校也正在上演这样的戏。每一次我都会想下一步有什么。每一次都是最坏的情况在发生。这百分之百的命中率,要是彩票就好了。在被文革了大半年了以后,5/15的时光列车一下把我们带回到了国民党白色恐怖时代,那一个心凉啊。
星期天我到中文学校去问财务长按学校的校章,被告的自愿者学校不是应付他们的应诉费吗?李盛京董事在旁边马上接话说,那可不一定,要看他们是不是有good faith. 我说被告的董事又不是为自己,他们一直在为中文学校有一个新的开始而努力,当然是good faith了。他说我们说了不算,法庭说了才算。 看,在我们的老校长那里校章也不过是一页废纸。他还说董事长就需要做两件事,一是通过budget,二是选出校长,他都做到了。是啊他做到了,学校也乱了一年多了。
请你把校章仔细读一下,什么地方说干了违法的事也要学校出钱打官司?
Delete学校乱了一年多,朱立要负很大责任。去年明知董事会有预选候选人的权力,为什么还闹?
Delete去年5董完全有权力用学校的钱上法庭,但他们没有用学校的钱。这次朱立4董干了违法的事心虚,人家还没告就急着编造董事会决议,要用学校的钱给自己打官司。谁为学校着想,谁为自己着想,不是很清楚了吗?
Delete去年5董完全有权力用学校的钱上法庭
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说说哪一条?罢免董事可是合法的。5董去年可是用的过时的bylaw阻止家长行使自己的权利, 欺骗法庭,这是什么罪,难怪瘦身了哪。天天做恶梦吧?
去年5董完全有权力用学校的钱上法庭,但他们没有用学校的钱。这次朱立4董干了违法的事心虚,人家还没告就急着编造董事会决议,要用学校的钱给自己打官司。谁为学校着想,谁为自己着想,不是很清楚了吗?
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BYLAW明确规定,原告不能用学校的钱打官司,被告才可以。就是为了放止像五恶董与胡/刘这样的恶棍任意诬告好人。去年五恶董是原告,今年胡/刘是原告。请你好好读读BYLAW再来大放厥词?!
有人要破坏学校选举,董事会难道没权力用法律手段阻止吗?保证学校正常运行是董事会的职责。Bylaws哪里说不可以上法庭?
Delete用法庭传票阻止《合法的》罢免五董事, 强行举办《非法的》胡刘选举,而且法庭传票是用欺骗法庭的方法得来的。
Delete无法无天,创纪录了。
When people exercise their right to sue for the benefit of the school, this woman says it's 国民党白色恐怖. When the board members did the opposite of what's in the bylaws after legal opinions pointed out they're opposites, this woman says it's good faith. My view - only one v - is that this woman hated the lawsuit because it destroyed her chance of getting elected into the board herself. Power hungry four board members' activities are to make people follow their directions and to tell people who's in charge. That means the illegal activities are for their own benefit. The benefit doesn't have to be tangible. The distorted facts, misunderstood law and ill conceived logic aren't even worth my time to dispute. How could the movie filled brain begin to understand?
Delete楼上,the sad thing is you have NO brain!!!
DeleteEveryone has a brain, so your assertion is medically implausible. The question is what's inside of your brain. I say your brain is full of stupid movies and hatred that blurred your simple moral. A judgment from the court will certainly knock you all into semi consciousness and then you can begin to wonder, maybe.
Delete回到5/22 的“问答”。这次我们从后往前说。
ReplyDelete“Q5Q6”:董事会为什么会成立SVC,采用公开投票和邮寄方式,大家可以查询3月,4月学校的newsletter 和董事会发布的消息而找到第一手资料。我想说的是Hu/Liu本人就是上届董事会以SVC的方式选出来的。而邮寄投票是我们胡校长/刘家长会长亲自首创的。他们做的时候就是堂堂正正,干干净净。别人做的时候就是违法和不干不净了。这要需要多大的自信和骄傲才能完成这唯我独尊的逻辑。
“Q4”:我把bylaw里Indemnification 条款拷贝在这里。大家自己看我们将来是不是必须得买这个单。这个单也是告人者迫使我们付的。Hu/liu告人这是他们的自由,但是他们凭什么用中文学校的名义告自愿者。如果说中文学校是我们家长大家的,他们告人问过我们吗?董事会是中文学校的法人,这上法庭的事他们通过董事会了吗?如果这是在他们律师的咨询下的做法,那么这种“法人在法人不知道的情况下把法人自己告了”的悖论,会在华人社区永垂不朽的。要是以中文学校的名义,那么是不是中文学校现在或将来必须得给他们付告人费呢?我相信财务长不会同意给他们付这个钱的,不过保险起见,下次上课我还是要去问问。
你的逻辑似乎有问题。如果先问一下被告要不要告他,你觉得他会怎么说?
DeleteQ5Q6: 去年的SVC是在朱立作为家长会长拒绝组织选举的情况下由董事会任命的。这次家长会已经组织了校章的投票,朱立等人为什么还要搞SVC?搞的过程也不合法。
DeleteQ4:这次打官司,只有朱立急着要学校出钱。胡/刘没说过要学校出钱。最后结果,谁输谁给双方出钱。
去年SVC的选举哪一条是合法的?
Delete没有合法的。 用胡大鹏的话来说,胡大鹏/刘雅文是小三生的私生子,我们一年都鄙视它们!
Delete“Q3“:。。。。。。(无言,请大家看他们的诉讼原稿。)
ReplyDelete“Q2”:这是最让我生气的一条。我们被文革了大半年,现在又被带入了白色恐怖之中。还来告诉我们是为了学校为了我们。收起来吧,校规也不过是对别人,不对他们自己。星期天在停车场,有一个家长拉住我说了半天。她说她已经有一个月没来中文学校了,她心脏不好,不想来添堵。她说大家都是朋友,孩子一起长大的人现在因为这些事都不说话了。这就是中文学校的现状。我现在和别人说话也是小心翼翼,多年的老朋友也不敢联系提及这些事,怕大家意见不一样,反而作不了朋友了。这么压抑的环境怪不得这么多人在考虑离开。运动他们搞,法庭他们上,还说要维持学校的良好风气,真是苍天有眼。
什么是“白色恐怖”?请先定义清楚。没做违法的事会有人告吗?怕人告吗?
Delete没做违法的事会有人告吗?
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真是苍天有眼, 出了几个讼棍,你随便告别人,别人就违法了吗? 坑了你雇的律师,律师克饶不了你。
“Q1”:BAC完全由一般中立家长组成,他们中有大学教授,很多是有法律专业背景的。可是也许正因为如此,他们修改bylaw的旅程走得特别的难。大家可以到http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HXNYBylawsCom/links 上去看看,有多少对BAC成员的攻击,有些还是学校领导针对他们人格的而不是他们修改的bylaw。也许大家都还记得在开学之初,他们为了自己进入BAC展开的运动,还有后来他们在学校的newsletter上连续几周对新bylaw随意的歪曲,误导和用捏造的事实对新bylaw进行抨击。我一直不理解为什么他们一定要这样对新bylaw进行围攻堵截,有时根本不是因为什么条款有问题,我原以为他们是为了自己的主张得到承认而为之的。可是要是大家都是为了中文学校好,为什么要大打出手呢?现在看来不全是。去年他们花了钱上了法庭,在中间家长的努力下谈和,大家带着善良的愿望,希望把bylaw改好,从新开始。可是因为BAC没有包括他们的人,他们好不容易花了钱得到的主动权被人拿走,那还不急疯了。这也是人之常情,不难理解。有的时候真相就在一些简单的道理里面。他们所谓的协商,也就是不要新bylaw通过,要在他们的领导下在下面一年里进行改写。
ReplyDeletehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/HXNYBylawsCom/links
Delete上面没有对BAC成员的攻击,只有你们几个帮派成员对持有不同意见的家长和胡/刘的攻击。
他们好不容易花了钱得到的主动权被人拿走,那还不急疯了。
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你这句话就是人身攻击。
拿来形容朱立,李建仁还差不多。他们拼命把Limited Voting塞进Bylaws,最后知道通不过。急疯了才用非法手段想强行通过。
怎么不告Limited Voting啊?
Delete怎么不告Limited Voting啊?
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你搞错没有?谁告新校章草案的内容?是告四董非法强行通过和非法实行新校章草案。
怎么不告Limited Voting啊?
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你搞错没有?谁告新校章草案的内容?是告四董非法强行通过和非法实行新校章草案。
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你搞错没有? 胡刘告的就是新校章草案的内容, 说新校章造成的损害就是胡刘不能进董事会。你读不懂英文?
怎么不告Limited Voting啊?
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你搞错没有?谁告新校章草案的内容?是告四董非法强行通过和非法实行新校章草案。
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你搞错没有? 胡刘告的就是新校章草案的内容, 说新校章造成的损害就是胡刘不能进董事会。你读不懂英文?
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四董非法强行通过和非法实行新校章草案才会造成对胡/刘利益的损害。你读不懂英文?
新校章草案通过了,就造成对胡/刘利益的损害, 对胡/刘利益的损害就是他们就不能自动进董事会,所以就告人家是”强行“通过, 这道理这么明白。
Delete今年他们又再次把自愿者告上了法庭,从他们自己的钱包里出来的钱将会更多。去年他们快速地撤诉,并没有等到法庭做出公正的裁决。可是今年难办了,撤诉意味着新bylaw的通过,不撤意味着花的钱将比去年多。那么心理的不平衡将会更大,那么将来我们,我们中的自愿者将更没有安全。以后只有这几种人在中文学校有安全:
ReplyDelete1. 有几十万没地方用的钱,不怕他们告的人;
2. 为他们告自愿者捐款的人;
3. 现在或将来都不会和他们有意见不同的人。
知法犯法的人从此以后就不会在HXNY安全了。其他自愿者很安全。
Delete这些人包括五恶东和胡/刘。
Delete我亲爱的华夏家长们,我们被绑架了。我们将不能有自由的意志,因为不管你要不要,人家硬为你花了钱。吃人者嘴软,天下没有免费的午餐。将来都要还的。
ReplyDelete法网恢恢,可是很多时候它也只对有钱人恢恢的。我们那四个诚实,打死也撒不了慌,捏造不了事实的董事们,他们怎么办呢?他们一个是Pace的终生教授,一个是IBM的研究员,一个是IT 主管,一个是EMS软件工程师。他们都为中文学校长时间的义务服务,花时间花心血,最后是这样一个结果,心寒那。这对他们的身心,他们家人的身心都是多么大的打击啊。告人的人你们换位想一想,心安吗?
还有,那些在号召impeach朱立的人,心是不是也太黑了一些。 人已经被告到法庭了,对与错,法庭自有公断。朱立是以前以三百多票当选的家长会长,他要有那么坏,能这样被大家承认吗?大家只要把胡校长和另外三董对由一般家长组成的BAC所进行的bylaw修改的所作所为列下来,标注上时间,再把朱立和被告的董事们的所作所为列下来,标注上时间,就能知道事情是怎么一回事了
朱力当年是不错,他的为人还为汪元拉了不少票。我当年也是看在朱力面上投了他们一票。
Delete可是当今的朱力与二年前完全不一样了。二年前,朱力为人热情,虽爱与人争执,却是个讲道理的人。如今,朱力已经完全失去了自己的头脑,听不进任何不同意见了。
不要骂朱立。你们五恶董,胡大鹏,刘雅文,尹永义,张明宝,什么时候有头脑?什么时候讲道理?什么时候听进任何意见了?一群流氓!
Delete我还看到一个有趣的现象。 这些去年今年的告人者,在这一年里,消瘦了不少,脸色也不好,心里有煎熬吧。害人害己,何苦呢?要瘦身也不要用这样的方法啊。不管是谁,要是出现去年汪元的状况(送急诊),我都会觉得很悲哀的。
ReplyDelete我现在不知道有什么好办法去解决当前的危机。只有买单,我们才能还掉人家硬塞给我们的帐,我们才有可能理直气壮的做人。我会把我的所有公开信整理好,有时间的时候翻译好。我希望能有机会把材料交到法官手里,我希望他们能看一看我一个一般家长的意见。
我会把这封信送交newsletter和board,我希望他们能发布我的信。以前胡校长到处在学校散发不实的传单,号召大家对新校章说No时,张明宝教务长说那是民主的表现。我们大家都是从只有一个党的歌喉的国度来的,我们知道民众的心声被压制的窒息。民主的第一条就是让不同的意见都能被大家听到,让大家作出他们自己的判断。怎么样,胡校长,刘主席,你们也真正的民主一下?
周英敬上
全校几百个家长,每人写一封信,是不是newsletter都要给发呢? 不发是不是就不民主了呢?
Delete你们那派的人,如李xx和郑x之流,怎么都觉得只有把你们写的东西发至全校才叫民主?
那美国是不是民主呢? 民主党的总统发表完国情咨文,是不是要共和党人也发一个,才叫真正民主呢? 是不是老百姓也要发表一个感想感受,才叫真正民主啊?
咱上法庭,要不要全校家长排队,轮流对法官谈一下自己的看法啊?
我看您也别费那劲翻译您的大作了。天怪热的,悠着点吧!
周英,你替朱立喊冤?那你也替他解释一下为什么投票要作弊,董事会投票记录要造假?
Delete4/15SVC票箱当天收到多少票?4/15以后收到多少邮寄票?你要不知道,替咱问问朱立可以吗?
我现在不知道有什么好办法去解决当前的危机。只有买单,我们才能还掉人家硬塞给我们的帐,我们才有可能理直气壮的做人。我会把我的所有公开信整理好,有时间的时候翻译好。我希望能有机会把材料交到法官手里,我希望他们能看一看我一个一般家长的意见。
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周英,原来你是想让学校买单让朱立的律师花学校的钱看你的牛头不对马嘴的EMAIL?你以为法官会收你的东西?别自作多情了。
有什么办法解决危机?朱立已经铁了心蛮干到底。家长们没办法,只能请法官给个公道了。等判决吧。
Delete胡刘为了自己告的同胞。period.
Delete胡刘的诉状里声明新校章造成的唯一伤害就是,胡刘不能自动进董事会。
我读了诉状, 真是无比愤怒。 胡刘竟然无耻到这地步!
家长会校委会的同仁们,不能再被胡刘洗脑了。真相是什么,只须读读诉状原文。
无理狡辩!说你无理因为你完全不懂美国民主,国情咨文是总统的年度政府工作报告。不是大家一阵掌声后就完了,这仅仅是事情的开始。反对党会发表了对国情咨文的回应,防止执政党在执政期间误导百姓,以达到反对党对执政党的监督制衡作用。
Delete几百个家长的信不可能都发,但是newsletter一封都没有发就是一言堂。
天气确实很热,你就别出来显眼了。
那发几封就不是一言堂了?
Delete总统在国会讲完国情咨文,也没让反对党在国会,同一黄金时间内说两句,反对党也不过发表一个类似公开信似的回应,照你的说法,那也是不够民主吧?
如果志愿者杀人防火被告,学校也会出钱给他们打官司吗?
ReplyDelete如果一个志愿者,知法犯法,想怎么胡作非为就怎么做,难道学校也要出钱为他打官司吗?
难道一个志愿者,只要他自己说是为了学校着想,连校章也不管不顾了,难道家长们不可以告他们吗?告了他们,学校出钱,那么如果事实证明是家长们对了,学校是否也要出钱呢?
胡作非为,知法犯法,就要有后果。 后果自负!
Hu/Liu违反校章,州法还少?
Delete请你睁眼看看现实吧。
这个犯不犯法是由法庭决定的,别人谁说都不算。
Delete法庭定罪,学校绝对不会买单。
法庭定无罪,学校根据ByLaw必须补偿。
楼上的还有三董事不必为此专门发文和操心。
想说的是Hu/Liu本人就是上届董事会以SVC的方式选出来的。而邮寄投票是我们胡校长/刘家长会长亲自首创的。他们做的时候就是堂堂正正,干干净净。别人做的时候就是违法和不干不净了。这要需要多大的自信和骄傲才能完成这唯我独尊的逻辑。
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Hu/Liu本人, 上届董事会, 谁违反校章了?
把票箱抱回家两个星期可是朱立的发明。这票箱里的奥妙只有他知道。
Delete胡大鹏刘雅文就是去年李盛京生出来的私生子。家长会长朱立没有主持选举!
ReplyDelete这个博主还算中立,可看出来他还有一丝良知,与五恶董,胡/刘不是一路人,不可同日而语。。。可好像胡/刘之人认为这是他们家的茅坑,可以任意天天在此拉屎撒尿,我以为这不是博主的初衷吧?是个人都能分辨是非,只有禽兽不如的人才会颠倒黑白, 诬告忠良。
ReplyDelete这新校长也没法选啊。
ReplyDelete新旧版校章对校长候选人提名过程规定不一。 要是四董赢了官司,说明新校章合法,咱是否还要重新再选一遍啊?
到时又给落选候选人一个闹事机会。
Delete真有本事就不要怕别人出来选!!!
Delete看花开花落、云卷云舒、缘来缘去。
ReplyDelete以金相交,金耗则忘;
以利相交,利尽则散;
以势相交,势去则倾;
以权相交,权失则弃;
以情相交,情逝人伤;
唯心相交,静行致远。
胡大鹏闹了一年,累不累?
ReplyDelete有啥可累的,朱力闹了两年了,郑顾团闹了六年了,他们累吗?
Delete朱立装什么蒜呢?还不公布报名和选举日期?真要跟TRO对着干?
ReplyDelete是不是雷明会,周清,李生精不穿加董事会议,让明年没有校长,胡大鹏就可继续赖在台上了。这样连任是不是太不要脸,是不是?
ReplyDelete你们就不要嫁祸于朱立了。
连中国话都说不好的人,怎么跟你说明白?公布个报名和选举日期用得着开会吗?再说了,朱立4董什么都敢伪造,干正经事就不敢了?
Delete...公布个报名和选举日期用得着开会...
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连那件事需要开会,那件不需要开会都得你说了算。 白色恐怖啊。
朱立想开会不就是想要通过让学校支付他的律师费的决议吗?上次他搞了个假的。如果有quorum (five)就可以搞成真的。让学校支付他的律师费的话明年真是开不了学了。储备金花光了还开什么学?
Delete三董事应该坚持不开会,到法庭判决后再说。下学期能开学,就谢谢三董事吧。
朱立真想要选校长/家长会长的话,还用得着开会听别人的意见?
三董事是第几次不瑏加开会了,是不是应被开除了?
ReplyDelete真的假的?
Delete绝对是真的。他们不让我们按老的BYLAW选校长,拖时间,最后胡大鹏/刘亚文可再做一年。他们根本不顾广大家长学生的需求,想不让孩子们有学上!
Delete朱立想开会不就是想要通过让学校支付他的律师费的决议吗?上次他搞了个假的。如果有quorum (five)就可以搞成真的。让学校支付他的律师费的话明年真是开不了学了。储备金花光了还开什么学?
Delete三董事应该坚持不开会,到法庭判决后再说。下学期能开学,就谢谢三董事吧。
朱立真想要选校长/家长会长的话,还用得着开会听别人的意见?
朱立真想要选校长/家长会长的话,还用得着开会听别人的意见?
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三董事已连续三次拒绝开会, 说说朱立怎样选校长/家长会长?
李盛京雷鸣会周清想让我们明年没有校长,没有中文学校,我们会答应吗?我们能答应吗?
DeleteDear friends, Everyone know the school is pretty chaotic. The school belongs to all members, if nobody cares about the school, and we can only accept whatever is being offered, which may not be to the best interest of parents. I don't know too much about the history and not interested to know either. I am sure there is a lot baggage there. However there are two things bother me the most in the past few months:
ReplyDeleteThe school already have a voting committee for Bylaw and the whole process is fairly transparent. Without going through any normal legal procedure, either you have to find the current voting committee is illegal and cancel it before you can set up another one, the Board Chairman set up a voting committee themselves and without any supervision. If anyone can do this in school, how chaotic it will be.
ByLaw means " By the Law". Everyone has to follow it before the new bylaw is passed. ByLaw states 5 board members need to be present to call a Board meeting. So far there have not been anytime we have more than 4 members for the board meeting and the board chairman made a lot of statement claiming that is Board's decision. As the Board chairman, he supposes to have the best knowledge about bylaw and he is the one violates it the most.
Below is an email from a parent in my son's class. It propose a temporal solution for now. It is still a draft and I am curious to hear your thoughts on it. 尊重志愿者精神 开放选举 暂缓候选人遴选 学年临近尾声,又到了选举校长、家长会长的时刻。值此多事之秋,为避免因董事会选定候选人而重演去年开启纷争的一幕,我们呼吁大家签名,暂缓实施董事会有权选定不超过两对候选人的规定, 让全体家长直接选举校长和家长会长。 大家都知道,学校目前政治上处于一种混乱状态,很多人都不愿在这种乱局中出来参选。值此多事之秋,愿意参选的志愿者都值得大家的尊重和敬佩,董事会也没必要 再去限制。去年因实施候选人遴选,与志愿者精神相抵触,引发了社区分裂。前车之鉴,后事之师。华夏要前进,一定要避免重蹈覆辙,再一次伤害志愿者精神。让 全体家长直接选举校长和家长会长,这样才能真正做到让家长充分行使民主权利。从操作上看,多一个候选人只是在选票上多一个名字,不会带来任何问题。 华夏纽约性质上属于全体会员,我们相信董事会将会根据广大家长的呼声来做决策,用他们的智慧,体现领导力。我们诉求的不是修改该款条文,因为修改校章涉及方方面面,需要时间讨论。我们诉求的只是根据今年特殊情况,暂缓实施该款条文的相关规定(Suspension),这是全体会员行使最高权力的体现,符合组织运行惯例,并具备可操作性。 请您签名支持我们的诉求。您的支持,将帮助我们的学校避免纷争。You can make a difference! 请行使您神圣的权利,让我们行动起来,保护学校! 请回复本电子邮件"YES" and sign both your and your spouse's names if you support this proposal. 您的姓名和邮箱将严格保密。除了本邮件的发送人和PTA验证所需,任何人都不能接触您的个人资料。 Thanks a lot! Linda
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嘿,连号称“菩提禅修”的,都无法淡定了,跳出来为“胡/刘”淌上一滩浑水。
Delete这个吴某,嘴上说引导学员“自我清净、沉淀减压”,轮到自己怎么就不清净了?
不仅不清净,还冒出来掀起又一起风波。还嫌学校不够乱吗?
她真教人修炼,就应该去劝说胡大鹏抛弃杂念,一心向善,视名利为粪土。
我看,她哪儿是坐在“菩提树”,根本是背靠“摇钱树”,面对她的金主打坐邀功呢。
修佛的,居然摆出“博士”学位来唬人。
佛祖是什么学位?
净土宗、华严宗、天台宗的创始人是什么学位?
有些高僧根本是失学儿童,成年后才靠领悟和自修得道。
禅宗第六世高僧慧能(《六祖坛经》记录有他的事迹)称,理解佛理与是否识字无关(更与博士学位无关了),因为佛理不是知识的推理和分析,关键在个人的体验和心悟。所谓“佛性本有,见性成佛”,砍柴挑水皆是修炼。
“菩提只向心觅”,禅修之人应该互相切磋学习,哪好意思开课挣钱啊!
家长不要被吴某的说教唬住了!
她其实就是佛教理论的搬运工,搬运的还可能是鸡毛蒜皮的东西。
宗教讲“言传身教”,吴某自己都做不到“戒定慧”,免疫力那么差,还怎么带徒弟?
其实乱世里,哪有真修炼的!到处是妖僧、妖婆啊。
连少林寺都企业化管理了,方丈成了CEO,还要挂牌上股市去扑腾一番呢。
总之,吴某是跳出来找骂的。
胡大鹏要自动当董事,她怎么不反对,不代表民意号召直选董事啊?
轮到限制董事会权力的时候(董事会的做法符合校章),她就发飙了,要纠集“禅修弟子”起义造反。
看到吴某的“义举”,
我想起郎咸平评价温家宝的一句话:“啧啧,我靠!就这水平, 怎么好意思嘛。”
有人听进一句话就能澈悟。有人熟读经典还是榆木脑袋。
Delete”总之,吴某是跳出来找骂的“一句话,能看出作者属于第二种人。
For Linda...
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Gary Guo, Shengjing Li, Minghui Lei, Peiwin Yang and Ching Zhou
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Alan Yuan Wang, Xiaodi Cai and John Does 1-10
June 17, 2011
The Supreme Court of the State of New York, Westchester County, Index No: 12335-11
http://wro.westchesterclerk.com/legalsearch.aspx#
Guo et al stated:
Complaint #12. Defendant Wang is neither an employee nor a director of the School. He was chosen as its unpaid principal by the Board in the spring of 2010 for a one-year term. Wang's term as principal was scheduled to expire on June 19, 2011, the last day of the School's 2010-2011 academic year. No vote was ever taken to extend or renew his term beyond that date.
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Anonymous May 31, 2012 6:49 AM
胡大鹏/刘雅文, 你们去年在学期最后一天“选举”,是不是违法Bylaw
Illegal Election of HU/LIU in 2011
ReplyDeleteJune 18, 2011 PTA Chair announced that PTA would not conduct the proposed illegal election.
-- On Sat, 6/18/11, Lee zhu wrote:
From: Lee zhu
Subject: PTA's stand on reqest of the general eclection on June 19
To: "Alan Yuan Wang (alawang)" , "Vivienne Wang", "HXAdmin" , "HXNY PTA" , "HXBoard"
Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 11:58 AM
Hi Alan,
Can you forward this message to all members? Thanks. Li Zhu
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Dear all members,
PTA will not conduct the election requested by Shengjing Li.
1.) June 19, 2011 is the last day of school year 2010-2011. The election would be against the bylaws. So PTA will not violate the bylaws to conduct such election.
2.) The recent actions taken by the Board do not comply with the by-law. Specifically, the procedures for the elections have been disregarded and the by-laws have been violated. As such, until such time as procedures have been put into place which comply with the by-law, PTA will not conduct the election.
Thank you for your understanding at this difficult time of HXNY and please stand up for our kids and our school.
June 18, 2011 PTA consistently opposed to the 6/19 election.
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From: HXNY ADMIN
Date: 2011/6/18
Subject: Urgent Notice from HXNY Administration & PTA
To:
Dear HXNY Parents/Members,
The HXNY Board led by Shengjing Li is pursuing an election of school leaders from their hand picked candidates tomorrow, June 19th, 2011. Based on the current HXNY Bylaws, we deem that this proposed election is illegal and its results invalid.
We urge all parents to boycott this illegal election. We reserve rights to pursing all possible legal means to challenge this proposed election and its results.
Members are the highest legislative body of the School. We will fight to safeguard this central tenet of our school. We are confident that we will prevail in the end.
HXNY Administrative Team
HXNY PTA
2.华夏家长会的立场:6/19选举是非法的。
IV. Parent Council Chair’s response to “School Leader Election: Hosted by the Board on Sunday, 06/19”
Dear all members,
This is to respond to the board's Request for election on June 19, 2011.
First I didn't postpone the meeting on June 12. It was the board that delayed the meeting and due to time limit, it was impossible to finish the agenda. It was clear and nobody should try to confuse and mislead members.
It is clear in the bylaws that a meeting of member to elect the principal and the chairperson of the parents council must be held at least one week before the end of each school year (5.02.1). Based on this, parent council will not violate the bylaws to conduct the voting for such illegal election as it would be the last day of this school year.
Bylaws 5.03.7 says that a voting committee shall be appointed by the PC to conduct the voting. Based on this, any voting not conducted by PC appointed voting committee is invalid and illegal.
Li Zhu,
Chairman, Huaxia Chinese School, NY
June 20, 2011, PTA rejected 6/19 election results.
ReplyDeleteThe following is a response from Mr. Li Zhu, the Chairman of Parent Council, to Mr. Shengjing Li's email on June 20 titled: “Message from Board: Graduation Ceremony/Track and Field Game/Election on June 19, 2011”. Mr. Li is currently in China due to family emergency.
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Dear all fellow HXNY members,
Last Sunday's election (6/19/2011) is illegal and invalid, because
1.) The board meeting which approved the new pair of candidates on Sunday (6/19/2011) violated the bylaws which requires at minimum 5 board directors without conflict of interest conduct election related any businesses.
2.) Based on HXNY current bylaws any voting must be conducted by the HXNY Parent Council. HXNY has total 918 members, the Sunday's election (6/19/2011) trampled the will and right of the majority of HXNY members.
Parent Council, on behalf of most HXNY members, condemns this illegal action, and rejects this election result.
Regards,
Li Zhu, Parent Council Chairman
06/20/2011
Illegal Hosting Election y the Board (Should be hosted by the PTA)
ReplyDelete----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Shengjing Li XXX@gmail.com>
To: Alan Yuan Wang (alawang); Zhu Li
Cc: hxny-board@external.cisco.com; HXNY PTA ; hxnyadmin
Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 7:07:45 PM
Subject: School Leader Election: Hosted by the Board
Alan and LI,
The notice for election is updated due to the feedback. Would you please help send it to all HXNY members?
Thanks,
Shengjing
School Leader Election: Hosted by the Board
Dear HXNY members,
The Board will be the only responsible body hosting the election this Sunday for HXNY, as required by the bylaw.
Per Board 6/9 Resolution, a new nomination process has been opened up for one additional pair of candidates for this year's election.
1) The nomination deadline has been extended to 9:30AM, June 12. Any school member can nominate candidates. Each candidate must be clearly designated as for which position such candidate is running. The nominated pairs should be prepared to present their plans at the open meeting on Sunday, June 12 at 9:30am in CLA 200 of WCC
2) The Board will review and approve one additional pair of candidates for School Principal and Chair of Parents Council.
3) Only the Board Approved candidates can be added onto the Ballot, any ballot with unapproved candidates’ names on it will deem to be invalid.
4) In case no one gets the simple majority votes, the board will call for the same election process next week until the School Principal and Chair of Parents Council are elected.
Here is a quick note on Sunday’s election:
• Venue (地点): CLA 200 of WCC
• Time (时间): 9:30am – 12:45pm• To vote, you need to present your driver licenses.
Agenda as follows:
9:45 am - 10:15am Board review and approve new candidates
10:15am – 10:20am Board vote
10:20 am - 11:00 am Candidates present their plans for next school year
11:00am - 11:20am Q & A
11:20 pm – 12:45pm Distribute and cast ballots. Ballots will be counted.
The membership consists of adult students (18 years old and over) and parents or guardians of non-adult students. Please bring your drivers’ licenses. Proxy is acceptable. We look forward to your participation on Sunday 6/12/2011
Board Member Pointed out the Nomination and Election Process are Illegal
ReplyDelete----- Forwarded Message ----
From: gutuan zheng
To: Alan Yuan Wang (alawang) < >; Shengjing Li
Cc: chz ; hxny-board@external.cisco.com; hxny-admin@external.cisco.com; hxny-pta@external.cisco.com; Dapeng Hu
Sent: Sat, June 18, 2011 8:55:10 AM
Subject: Re: For the records.
Sehngjing,
• The second pair of candidates is not eligible candidate, has not and shall not be able to receive the approval from the board. Even by the latest individually set deadline, there had been no eligible nomination sent to the board. Why the board needs to have a meeting to review it?.
• The last minute pushing of electionb will divide HXNY: After refusing two settlement proposals by neutral party to stabilize school in last two days, the board is not showing honesty in solving the current crisis for the best interest of school. Instead, the board insists in pushing ahead its bylaw-violating plan, and pushing the school further to chaos and division.
Gutuan
--- On Fri, 6/17/11, Shengjing Li wrote:
From: Shengjing Li
Subject: Re: For the records.
To: "Alan Yuan Wang (alawang)"
Cc: "chz" , hxny-board@external.cisco.com, hxny-admin@external.cisco.com, hxny-pta@external.cisco.com, "Dapeng Hu"
Date: Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:20 PM
Alan, I would like to formally request for distributing the following message to all HXNY members. Thanks, --Shengjing
Dear HXNY members,
The school leader election scheduled on Sunday, June 12 was unexpectedly delayed, then postponed until June 19, 2011 per request from PC chairman Zhu Li. During the Q & A session on June 12 conference, your voices are loud and clear that HXNY members want an election and make their own choices of school leaders for the next school year. The school Board has heard your voices and will honor its responsibility for an election on June 19, 2011.
Per Board resolution on June 9, 2011, a new nomination process was opened up for one additional pair of candidates for this year's election. Parents Dapeng Hu and Yawen Liu has submitted their vision and working plan to the school board for supporting their candidacy. They are also committed to do their best helping the school to overcome this difficult time. Board shall review their candidacy before the general election on Sunday, June 19, 2011. If it’s approved, we shall submit the additional pair of candidates for members to vote and make the final decision.
The graduation ceremony will be held in the White Plains high school auditorium. The annual ceremony is the day for HXNY families to celebrate the achievement of our children. We will keep the election activities outside of the auditorium.
Here is the timeline on Sunday’s election:
• Venue (地点): Hallway outside of the White Plains high school auditorium
• Time (时间): 9:10 am – 12:30 pm
Agenda as follows:
9:10 am - 9:40 am Board review and approve additional candidates
9:40 am - 10:30 am Candidates present their plans followed by Q & A
10:30 am - 12:30 am Distribute and cast ballots. Ballots will be counted.
Notes on rules:
1) Only the Board approved candidates can be added onto the Ballot, any ballot with unapproved candidates’ names on it will deem to be invalid.
2) The membership consists of adult students (18 years old and over) and parents or guardians of non-adult students, and permanent members.
3) To vote, you need to present your driver licenses.
4) Proxy is acceptable.
We look forward to your participation on Sunday, June 19, 2011.
June 20, 2011, Li Shengjing announced 6/19 illegal election results
ReplyDelete---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: shengjing li
Date: Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:33 AM
Subject: Message from Board: Graduation Ceremony/Track and Field Game/Election on June 19, 2011
To: hxny-board@external.cisco.com, hxnyadmin , HXNY PTA
Dear HXNY members:
Sunday, June 19, 2011 is a big day for Huaxia Chinese School of New York. The graduation and award ceremony was smooth and applaudable; Our children in the track and field games showed their energy and excitement; The general election for the Principal and Parent Council chair was completed orderly.
……
We would also like to express our appreciation to all the volunteers for their help in conducting the general election. Special thanks to the voting committee made of PTA class parents Min Xu, Vicky Lee, Dachun Yao, Zuojun Cao, Gang Xu for conducting the voting process. Special thanks to Mingjiang Gao, Hang Gao and Shou Wang for their observation of the ballot counting.
Thanks to all candidates for contributing their ideas to build a better school. We herein formally announce the voting result of the 2011 election as follows:
Total number of votes: 201 (exceeding the quorum requirement)
Number of Votes for candidates Dapeng Hu/Yawen Liu: 146
Number of Votes for candidates Minghui Lei/Mark Yin: 54
Number of invalid votes: 1
As per simple majority rule, team Dapeng Hu/Yawen Liu has been elected to be the Principal and Parent Council Chair for the school year 2011-2012. Congratulations to Dapeng and Yawen.
We believe that this new team of leaders will unite and strengthen our HXNY school and community.
Best regards,
Shengjing Li,
On behalf of Board Directors
Huaxia Chinese School of New York
We believe that this new team of leaders will unite and strengthen our HXNY school and community.
DeleteBest regards,
Shengjing Li,
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Under Shengjing Li's Leadership, Hu Dapeng/Liu Yawen lead and strengthen HXNY to the COURT again!!!
Arbitrary Changes to Candidate Nomination Deadline
ReplyDeleteThe 5 board members led by Shengjing Li arbitrarily changed the candidate nomination deadline three (3) time to put their hand-picked pair as the second pair of candidates, along with the first pair of their hand picked candidates, on the ballot and then claimed that they provided members with choices for a contested election.
1. First Deadline: 11:59 pm Friday, June 10, 2011
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Shengjing Li
To: cathy gao
Cc: HXAdmin ; HXBoard ; HXPTA ; Student Corner
Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 11:25:08 PM
Subject: Re: Preview for HXNY newsletter 6/12
Cathy, Please add the Board Notice into the newsletter. Thanks, --Shengjing
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Board Notice for Election:
While the majority of our Board members did not vote for one particular pair of candidates on May 22, the Board is never against the concept of a contested election with two pairs of candidates in general, and never had the desire or intention not to give school Members a choice. In light of the school Members poll on June 5, the majority of Board Members voted "Yes" for a Board resolution to open up this year’s election for additional nominations. Following the school Bylaws, “Any school member can nominate candidates.”
The additional nomination deadline is by 11:59 pm Friday, June 10, 2011. The Board will hold an open meeting on Sunday, June 12 to review and approve an additional pair of candidates for school Principal and Chair of Parents Council for the next school year. After the Board approval, the two pairs of candidates will be submitted to school Members for voting on the same day following the Board meeting. The open Board meeting will start at 10:00 am and the meeting location will be confirmed by Principal Alan Wang.
Thank you.
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2. Changed to 11:59 pm Saturday, June 11, 2011
Change to June 12, Saturday
Changed deadline to Saturday, 6/11/2011
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Shengjing Li
To: cathy gao ; Alan Yuan Wang (alawang)
Cc: HXAdmin ; HXBoard ; HXPTA
Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 2:20:33 PM
Subject: Re: Preview for HXNY newsletter 6/12
Dear Principal Alan Wang,
As the Board's resolution for the election, we need to have an open Board Meeting on Sunday, June 12, 2011. Please help send the following Board Notice for Election to all HXNY members and arrange a classroom for the board meeting.
Thanks,
Shengjing Li,
Co-Chair, Board of Directors
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Board Notice for Election:
While the majority of our Board members did not vote for one particular pair of candidates on May 22, the Board is never against the concept of a contested election with two pairs of candidates in general, and never had the desire or intention not to give school Members a choice. In light of the school Members poll on June 5, the majority of Board Members voted "Yes" for a Board resolution to open up this year’s election for additional nominations. Following the school Bylaws, “Any school member can nominate candidates.”
The additional nomination deadline is by 11:59 pm Saturday, June 11, 2011. The Board will hold an open meeting on Sunday, June 12 to review and approve an additional pair of candidates for school Principal and Chair of Parents Council for the next school year. After the Board approval, the two pairs of candidates will be submitted to school Members for voting on the same day following the Board meeting. The location and time for the open Board meeting will follow.
Thank you.
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Arbitrary Changes to Candidate Nomination Deadline
ReplyDeleteThe 5 board members led by Shengjing Li arbitrarily changed the candidate nomination deadline three (3) time to put their hand-picked pair as the second pair of candidates, along with the first pair of their hand picked candidates, on the ballot and then claimed that they provided members with choices for a contested election.
3. Li Changed the deadline to 9:30am Sunday, June 12, 2011
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Shengjing Li
To: Alan Yuan Wang (alawang); Zhu Li
Cc: hxny-board@external.cisco.com; HXNY PTA ; hxnyadmin
Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 7:07:45 PM
Subject: School Leader Election: Hosted by the Board
Alan and LI,
The notice for election is updated due to the feedback. Would you please help send it to all HXNY members?
Thanks,
Shengjing
School Leader Election: Hosted by the Board
Dear HXNY members,
The Board will be the only responsible body hosting the election this Sunday for HXNY, as required by the bylaw.
Per Board 6/9 Resolution, a new nomination process has been opened up for one additional pair of candidates for this year's election.
1) The nomination deadline has been extended to 9:30AM, June 12. Any school member can nominate candidates. Each candidate must be clearly designated as for which position such candidate is running. The nominated pairs should be prepared to present their plans at the open meeting on Sunday, June 12 at 9:30am in CLA 200 of WCC
2) The Board will review and approve one additional pair of candidates for School Principal and Chair of Parents Council.
3) Only the Board Approved candidates can be added onto the Ballot, any ballot with unapproved candidates’ names on it will deem to be invalid.
4) In case no one gets the simple majority votes, the board will call for the same election process next week until the School Principal and Chair of Parents Council are elected.
Here is a quick note on Sunday’s election:
• Venue (地点): CLA 200 of WCC
• Time (时间): 9:30am – 12:45pm• To vote, you need to present your driver licenses.
Agenda as follows:
9:45 am - 10:15am Board review and approve new candidates
10:15am – 10:20am Board vote
10:20 am - 11:00 am Candidates present their plans for next school year
11:00am - 11:20am Q & A
11:20 pm – 12:45pm Distribute and cast ballots. Ballots will be counted.
The membership consists of adult students (18 years old and over) and parents or guardians of non-adult students. Please bring your drivers’ licenses. Proxy is acceptable. We look forward to your participation on Sunday 6/12/2011
去年因实施候选人遴选,与志愿者精神相抵触,引发了社区分裂
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Linda, 你不是在扇李盛京的大嘴巴吗?李盛京还在口口声声地说,去年他做的完全正确。 胡大鹏真不是好鸟, 虽然李盛京不是好东西,可也不能这么出卖同伙呀。
1. 学校的乱局不能归咎于去年董事按章行事。现有校章要遵守,对。但是,其缺陷也是存在的。去年至今,乱局是制度缺陷和一些触犯到个人利益的小团体推波助澜造成的,而不是因为去年董事照章行事。基于这些认识,所以我们要按照校章的合法的规定,去修改校章。但是,校章修改委员会(为小团体左右)没有完成任务,我们不得不继续遵守有缺陷的校章。
Delete2. 对校章的缺陷,全体会员有共识,如对候选人的遴选,和董事的产生方法。BAC没有针对性地修改,反而引进了更多的有争议的条文,如Limited Voting, 治理结构中的上下级关系,等等,会员不能接受。几位董事用非法的方式欲强行通过,才陷入法律纠纷。校章没有如期修改, 使这些缺陷依然存在。我们不得不面临选择,是按照这些条文选校长、家长会长,还是设法改进。
3. 有选择地不实行现有校章中的某一条款, 跟几位董事违反校章不属于一个性质。几位董事知法犯法,故意违反选举程序,操纵选举,违反校章。而我们的诉求,是针对有共识的校章缺陷,协商一个办法来对待,在征求会员意见之后,会以合法的方式推进。征集Petition, 是校章规定的会员的权利。在达到法定人数后,最后如何实施,也是需要全体会员通过的。
4. 现在诉求的是权宜之计,目的是应对本来交付BAC处理的候选人遴选问题。变更校章条款涉及面广,须审慎行事,所以我们诉求的不是正式修改该条款,而是针对性地暂缓实施。这种做法是有先例可循的。而且,最重要的是,这个诉求是会员权利的体现。改变候选人遴选的做法,是大多数会员的共识,也是相对独立的条款,不会牵一发而动全身,具备可操作性。
5.现有校章的另一个缺陷,董事产生办法,因涉及面太广,影响更大(董事任期长),很难用权宜之计对待。但是,我们也多次呼吁,要用合法的方式尽快产生董事直选方式。
学校的乱局不能归咎于去年董事按章行事。
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去年的乱局完全归咎于董事!
两对参选人非要卡掉一对, 一对参选还让大家选个屁呀. 理由不就是私人矛盾吗? 硬要搬校章, 就象听GPS开车掉进河里,自己就没个sense?
听着象Newsletter公告, 这么早就发出来了? 看了第一条就看不下去了...
Delete看了大Z小Z的行为,我觉得他们应该被卡掉。
Delete“去年因实施候选人遴选,与志愿者精神相抵触,引发了社区分裂” - Linda Wu
Delete天大弥谎。。。如果你没有偏见,仅看看Shengjing Li去年的一小部分email,就明白了。
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1. 学校的乱局不能归咎于去年董事按章行事。现有校章要遵守,对。但是,其缺陷也是存在的。去年至今,乱局是制度缺陷和一些触犯到个人利益的小团体推波助澜造成的,而不是因为去年董事照章行事。基于这些认识,所以我们要按照校章的合法的规定,去修改校章。但是,校章修改委员会(为小团体左右)没有完成任务,我们不得不继续遵守有缺陷的校章。
Linda,
Delete听说你是研究禅修的,要说真话啊,问你几个简单问题:
1。”实施候选人遴选,与志愿者精神相抵触“, 这是适不适用去年?
2。去年几百家反对“候选人筛选”(用你的话),你为什么说那是小集团,而你现在做的不是为小集团?
3。新校章,全面普选,没有任何筛选,四位董事为此被胡刘告上法庭。告状一定要说人家对你造成了什么损害。 胡刘说,如新校章通过,对他俩有不可弥补的损害-不能自动进董事会。 所以,胡刘要求法庭命令四位董事暂停执行新校章,必须执行旧校章。 严格执行旧校章,现已经不是任何华夏的人说了算。
你说说你的用意是什么? 是不是在害人?
选不选都没谱, 倒为怎么选打起来了
Delete由董事会预选候选人是校章里的缺陷,这是大家的共识。不然就不会有今年的改校章。
Delete但是校章允许,董事会就可以用。后来的事实证明,5董做的没错。ZZ不适合做学校领导。搞群众运动,弹劾李董可以说是校章给的权力。但是弹劾没通过就不该再闹。后来的一系列事件使矛盾升级。是谁的责任大家都很清楚。所以今年支持小集团的人越来越少。
新校章的Limited Voting不是“普选”。如果不是为了维护帮派利益硬要塞进Limited Voting, 新校章现在已经通过并实施。
用违法,作弊的手法强行通过新校章,在客观上确实损害了胡/刘的权利。把这个事实写进状纸没错。违法,作弊是更严重的问题。避重就轻可以作为个人攻击的手段,但是发在董事会成员的声明中,是极不负责的行为。
李盛京说那要做人儿子的雷董事,是唯一合格的校领导。 合格不合格,为什么不让家长说?
Delete为什么不听家长的呼声?
“搞群众运动,弹劾李董可以说是校章给的权力。”
我可没忘为什么我要加入罢免五董 - 五董非法地罢免了校长王元,李盛京非法地宣布自己是校长!
更有甚者,五董居然用法庭传票阻挡家长行使校章给的权力。蔡教务长王校长居然不能参加学生的毕业典礼!
李盛京适合做学校领导?
Delete胡大鹏适合做学校领导??
尹永义适合做学校领导???
雷明辉适合做学校领导????
笑掉大牙了。。。。。。
Board Member Pointed out the Nomination and Election Process are Illegal
ReplyDelete----- Forwarded Message ----
From: gutuan zheng
To: Alan Yuan Wang (alawang) < >; Shengjing Li
Cc: chz ; hxny-board@external.cisco.com; hxny-admin@external.cisco.com; hxny-pta@external.cisco.com; Dapeng Hu
Sent: Sat, June 18, 2011 8:55:10 AM
Subject: Re: For the records.
Sehngjing,
• The second pair of candidates is not eligible candidate, has not and shall not be able to receive the approval from the board. Even by the latest individually set deadline, there had been no eligible nomination sent to the board. Why the board needs to have a meeting to review it?.
• The last minute pushing of electionb will divide HXNY: After refusing two settlement proposals by neutral party to stabilize school in last two days, the board is not showing honesty in solving the current crisis for the best interest of school. Instead, the board insists in pushing ahead its bylaw-violating plan, and pushing the school further to chaos and division.
Gutuan
Dear HXNY members,
ReplyDeleteThe Board will be the only responsible body hosting the election this Sunday for HXNY, as required by the bylaw.
Shengjing Li,
Co-Chair, Board of Directors
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李生精董事会非法主持选举!!!
笑话一则:
ReplyDelete一对狗男女,自6/19/2011在权力大道上一路裸奔。最后穿着“皇帝的新衣”奔进了法庭。二人异口同声:“尊敬的法官大人,董事会见我们没穿衣服,来路不明,有私生子之嫌,不让我们进董事会,我们要告他们!”
请报你的狗名。
Delete成功三要素:
ReplyDelete1,坚持。
2,不要脸。
3,坚持不要脸。
请自己对号入座!
朱立,李建仁。
Delete胡大鹏,刘雅文。
Delete去年选校长是因为朱力用虚假的理由拒行她的责任,(6月19日不是最后一天,7月31日才使),董事会有权利重新选择选举委员会,今年家长会清清白白的选举被朱力践踏,他还有什么不敢做的呢? 去年董事会重新选择选举委员会是有董事会决议的,有文件可查,老郑你就别在这里造谣了。
ReplyDelete刘亚文“清清白白的选举”?
Delete你当我们不认字啊?你当我们没有判断啊?什么年头了,还想愚民?
“清清白白”能用在胡大鹏刘雅文身上吗?笑话!
Delete“不干不净”还差不多。
Gary Guo, Shengjing Li, Minghui Lei, Peiwin Yang and Ching Zhou
Deletevs
Alan Yuan Wang, Xiaodi Cai and John Does 1-10
June 17, 2011
The Supreme Court of the State of New York, Westchester County, Index No: 12335-11
http://wro.westchesterclerk.com/legalsearch.aspx#
Guo et al stated:
Complaint #12. Defendant Wang is neither an employee nor a director of the School. He was chosen as its unpaid principal by the Board in the spring of 2010 for a one-year term. Wang's term as principal was scheduled to expire on June 19, 2011, the last day of the School's 2010-2011 academic year. No vote was ever taken to extend or renew his term beyond that date.
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Anonymous May 31, 2012 6:49 AM
胡大鹏/刘雅文, 你们去年在学期最后一天“选举”,是不是违法Bylaws?
一对狗男女,自6/19/2011在权力大道上一路裸奔。最后穿着“皇帝的新衣”奔进了法庭。二人异口同声:“尊敬的法官大人,董事会见我们没穿衣服,来路不明,有私生子之嫌,不让我们进董事会,我们要告他们!“
ReplyDelete请报你的狗名。
Delete胡大鹏,刘亚文急了,谁这么油菜啊?
Delete除了龌龊的戴扬还能有谁?整天幻想裸奔。
Delete听说反教改派要推出王硕和戴杨作为明年校长和家长会长的候选人。
ReplyDelete王硕去年没有拿到教务长一职后,当夜和老婆一起炮制了一个狗屁不通反教改的对校方的最后通牒。
戴杨更是去年弹劾“四家长”之一,去年今年闹事主力,到处少不了他。
看看反教改派和四人帮要给我们塞一对什么狗屁候选人吧。
From 王硕 刘玮:
DeleteDate: Friday, August 5, 2011, 1:03 AM>
请胡大鹏尽快给予答复。
第一 : 学校必须对老师保持应有的尊重并保护每位老师的合法权益。任何老师对校方口头或书面不当的言行提出不满时, 校方应该及时给予合理的解释道歉。 老师作为团队, 有权对学校不合理或故意拖延不办的行为调查督办。
第二:学校应该努力为老师提供教学辅助。对老师的合理教学需求拖延不办,老师作为团队有权对此提出异议并进行调查。
第三: 老师有权对其聘任, 工资和待遇提出疑问和要求. 校方必须在合理的时间之内给予答复或提供解决方案。
第四: 自本信件收到之日起,学校任何教育改革方案必须有至少三分之二的老师审阅通过。 学校至少提前七天将书面教育改革草案发给每位任职老师。 所有老师有权参与和监督整个教育改革方案的实施过程。如老师对教育改革方案或其实施过程提出异议,校方必须在合理期限内给予书面答复。 老师作为团队, 有权要求校方修订现行教育方案。
第五: 对学校选举有关的活动, 校方不得以任何直接或间接的方式要求老师拉选票或传播相关信息。 本提议由刘伟和王硕经办。学校和个人不得以任何名义对其他有关老师施加压力
得,一个要剥夺家长选教材的权利,一个是搞群众运动的高手。
Delete中文学校将永无宁日。
楼上,弹劾董事是校章赋予家长的权利。 不是闹事。要不你再去读读校章。五董决心与几百家长作对,旧校章里家长剩下的唯一权利就是罢免五董。(洪波亲口告诉大家的)
Delete敬佩戴杨. 戴杨正直, 勇敢,是中文学校的希望。
一个站起来说话都打哆嗦的人,免了吧。
Delete是胡大鹏腿不停地抖,打哆嗦吧?
Delete胡大鹏和刘雅文又要给我们塞一对什么狗屁候选人哪?林利徐明?雷明会和尹永义?
ReplyDelete选不上永远选不上,再叫再跳也没用。有本事出来和王硕戴扬竟争看看!
在这里匿民骂人算啥本事?
Gary Guo, Shengjing Li, Minghui Lei, Peiwin Yang and Ching Zhou
ReplyDeletevs
Alan Yuan Wang, Xiaodi Cai and John Does 1-10
June 17, 2011
The Supreme Court of the State of New York, Westchester County, Index No: 12335-11
http://wro.westchesterclerk.com/legalsearch.aspx#
Guo et al stated:
Complaint #12. Defendant Wang is neither an employee nor a director of the School. He was chosen as its unpaid principal by the Board in the spring of 2010 for a one-year term. Wang's term as principal was scheduled to expire on June 19, 2011, the last day of the School's 2010-2011 academic year. No vote was ever taken to extend or renew his term beyond that date.
胡大鹏/刘雅文, 你们去年在学期最后一天“选举”,是不是违法Bylaws?
Delete都贴出来啊?看来不仅是什么开会提前3天,10天的问题。说了一年的谎言。
Delete胡/刘选举没有提前十天通知!从头到底都是非法的!
DeleteAlan is not chosen by the Board! He was elected by 280 votes. What kind of LIARS Gary Guo, Shengjing Li, Qing ZHou, Minghui Lei is!!! I doubt why Alan didn't counter sue. Shame, shame, shame!!!
Delete楼上,弹劾董事是校章赋予家长的权利。 不是闹事。要不你再去读读校章。五董决心与几百家长作对,旧校章里家长剩下的唯一权利就是罢免五董。(洪波亲口告诉大家的)
ReplyDelete敬佩戴杨. 戴杨正直, 勇敢,是中文学校的希望。
支持戴杨!
Delete《胡大鹏、刘雅文“诉讼”真相》
ReplyDelete目前,学校再次上演“整人官司”,针对四位董事义工。我们呼吁“撤诉、直选、还权于家长”。本文揭示学校某些纠纷的起因,为的是捍卫家长的知情权,保护学校的财产和会员的名誉。
遭受去年动乱之苦的家长,都意识到修改旧校章是当务之急。时隔一年后,学校的乱象却越演越烈,令人痛心:1)新校章出台受阻;2)四董事被告上法庭;3)家长选举权被践踏。
新校章对校长、家长会会长选举的规定同旧校章一样,可是制造混乱的人,却想“趁乱”不经选举就自动做董事、当校长。他们以为依靠控制舆论,就可以胆大妄为。然而,真相无敌!鉴于胡/刘起诉四位董事围绕着“新校章”,我们就慢慢梳理他们几个月里的所作所为吧。
问:胡大鹏、刘亚文做了哪些阻碍修改新校章的事?
真相1: 胡、刘反对修改校章委员会(BAC)由中立家长组成。
BAC主席刚一上任,就热情邀请校委会和家长会各派一名代表加盟,希望他们推荐普通家长,不欢迎“头面人物”和“有争议人物”。不料,胡/刘先是推荐了自己,遭婉拒后,又推出两位有争议人物:林女士(曾为校长候选人、高调卷入去年风波)和高先生(非家长会成员,孩子不在校)。经过协商,董事会接受了高先生;希望换下林女士,另寻人选。校委会有十多名成员,不少是新面孔,另寻人选的余地很大。可是胡、刘拒不妥协, 干脆不推荐了,有意让董事会和BAC背上黑锅。于是,“拒绝校委会和家长会成员加入校章修改工作”谣言就出台了,被不断重复,还出现在“罢免朱董事长”的倡议书上。
真相2: 胡、刘垄断mailing list,阻碍BAC与家长直接交流。
董事会依法向胡大鹏要全校mailing list,他拒绝提供。胡大鹏的校委会控制全校资源,控制newsletter。胡/刘发布BAC工作进展内容时,未经BAC主席授权,有意裁剪或扭曲BAC讨论议题。仅举一例:2011年10月20日,胡/刘在未经BAC主席同意下,擅自修改BAC给董事会校章修订进展的报告,断章取义在校刊上发表。
特别指出:胡、刘对家长的态度就是“防”。翻开往年的全校通讯录,上面都印有家长地址。可是今年的通讯录有意隐去地址,居然连董事会名单都未刊印。二人紧抓手里之权,拒绝与全校家长分享,没有同心同德的意识,难怪新校章命运多舛。现在,二人把志愿者告上法庭,走上一条追求权力的不归路。
真相3. 多次拒绝给BAC提供开会场所。
由于胡大鹏的不合作,BAC的很多会议只好在草坪上进行。新校章的初稿完成后,BAC需要举办与家长的交流会。可是,胡大鹏推说“没有空余教室”,并散布谣言说BAC要与孩子抢教室。在热心人帮助下,BAC按时在science102召集了会议,戳破“没有空余教室”的谎言。
问: 在校章修改的过程中,董事会和BAC采取哪些协商的措施?
答:新校章是纽约华夏建校以来,修改时间最长,家长参与最多,修改幅度最大的校章。在八个月中,BAC 广泛听取各方(包括校委会、家长会)意见建议,在坚持原则前提下,做了很多重要调整。例如:
1、在胡大鹏等人的建议下,删去现任校长、家长会长不能当年参见竞选的限制。
2、增加了董事选举limited voting每票选举董事的数量:从1位增加到5位。
3、使dispute resolution成为非强制性。
可惜,所有让步和妥协,还是无法满足胡/刘,他们期望不经选举,自动直接进入董事会。 董事会坚持了董事会、校长和会长必需经过家长全面直选的原则,结果引来了胡/刘针对董事义工的官司。
问:胡大鹏和刘亚文积极配合新校章的投票工作了吗?
没有,相反一再设置障碍。3月25日新校章提案得到了董事会的全体通过,意味着其内容已大致确定,下一步就是寻求全校公投了。校委会和家长会理应全力以赴,组织好投票工作。可是,胡/刘继续设障,要求把318教改投票的结果放进新校章,除了保留直选,提议去掉其它所有条目。新校章草案的每一条内容都经过了八个月的讨论,而且动一发牵全身, 怎能在临近投票的最后关头,说改就改呢?于是,他们消极应付投票的筹备工作,一拖再拖,直到4月10日还没有邮寄出选票。
1、在胡大鹏等人的建议下,删去现任校长、家长会长不能当年参见竞选的限制。
Delete--这条的针对性也太明显了吧?随便剥夺成员的被选举权,BAC能自圆其说吗?呼吁删去这条的也不仅是胡大鹏吧?
2、增加了董事选举limited voting每票选举董事的数量:从1位增加到5位。
-- 1位改成5位没有改变实质,仍然是Limited Voting。仍然是限制家长们的选举权利。仍然是为了维护小帮派利益。
3、使dispute resolution成为非强制性。
-- 这一条从公布后大家就反对,李建仁一直不肯改。最后送律师审查时,被律师指出与州法矛盾才改为非强制性。这能说明李建仁听取了大家的意见?
2、增加了董事选举limited voting每票选举董事的数量:从1位增加到5位。
Delete当初谁提出只选一位的?提出这种选法本身就是反对民主。
羞羞答答不情不愿地不得已变成5位,也不过是个半吊子改良。为什么不能变得彻底些?
《胡大鹏、刘雅文“诉讼”真相》-2
ReplyDelete问:胡大鹏称董事会“not function well”,是真的吗?
是真的,但是周、李、雷三位董事对此要负主要责任!校章规定“五位以上董事认可,才能通过董事会决议。”于是,董事会开会时,他们三位耍滑头,总是无故缺席,造成董事会工作上的困难。不过董事会咨询了律师,在紧急关头,董事会的多数也可以形成决议。所以,面对乱象,四位董事毅然承担起责任,以全校家长和学生的利益为重,努力推进着合理的《董事会决议》出台。
问: 胡/刘的诉状里,有哪些欺骗家长和法庭、前后矛盾之处?
去年,胡大鹏和刘雅文的竞选宣言是:“当选不是为进董事会”,“支持废除校长家长会长自动进入董事会的制度”。今年,他们告诉家长起诉董事“不是为了我们自己自动进董事会”,同时称要通过法律手段捍卫“我们的正当权益。”
什么是他们的“正当权益”呢?原来还是“自动进董事会”!在起诉四董的状词里, 胡/刘多次声称:
1)在过去的一年里,胡大鹏/刘雅文一直期盼任期满后,自动进入董事会。
2)新校章剥夺了胡大鹏/刘雅文不经选举,自动直接进入董事会的权益。
3)新校章规定的董事普选会给胡大鹏/刘雅文带来不可弥补的伤害, 因为旧校章规定胡大鹏、刘雅文无需选举,自动进入董事会。
问: 为什么没能通过协商和调解,来解决问题?
答: 修改校章、直选董事是经过去年混乱之后,多数家长的共识。本学年董事会与BAC本着求同存异,一致向前的诚意,一直寻求协商解决问题的途径,并在其他关心校章修改家长的支持下,多次做出让步,妥协。遗憾的是,胡大鹏/刘雅文阳奉阴违,反复无常,甚至出尔反尔,激化矛盾,至今没能协商解决问题。
* 胡/刘多次公开表示支持校章修改,暗地里却处处为难。 例如,不发董事会决议,私自修改BAC通告,不给场地。
* 胡/刘阻挠家长参与新校章初稿的修改,他们在开会时间和地点做手脚。
* 胡/刘反对新校章上反复无常,甚至出尔反尔。他们一会儿反校长、家长会长隔年选举,一会儿反conflict resolution, 一会儿反limited voting, 一会儿反董事会权利太大, 一会儿又要校长任命。 现在我们看清楚了,他们真正反对的是新校章规定的董事会全面普选。
* 董事会5月8日强调将竭力通过校内协商解决问题,化解危机,不首先动用法律手段。但胡/刘一意孤行,竟把董事义工告上法庭,激化矛盾,威胁学校的前景。
问:应该怎样解决目前的争执?
答: 中文学校人心思定,我们反对在一年之内,把法律诉讼再度引入学校。本学年不到一个月就结束了,我们担心下学期孩子们的上学问题。现在纠纷既然进入法律程序,我们认为应尽快通过法律程序,解决纠纷, 找出长期解决方案。
我们想借此机会指出,学校资产属于华夏纽约中文学校,不是某人或某个小团体的私有财产。现任校委会,家长会在任期满后,必须如数全部交还学校。
李建仁的YahooGroup变成黄色网站了。 李建仁黄网看太多了,中毒了。
ReplyDelete大概用他自己的e-mail 注册那些黄色网站了。
Delete难怪我们的校章改地那么烂。
呵呵。他改校章压力大啊。看看黄网放松一下也可以理解。
Delete看了大Z小Z的行为,我觉得他们应该被卡掉。
ReplyDelete撒谎了吧,大Z小Z为学校义务工作多年。是非功过优点缺点,家长自有品说。
Delete为什么不让人参加选举,怕人家选上?你们不惜代价,要把这两位卡掉,不让人家给家长见面,到让我觉得他们一定很优秀。
“去年因实施候选人遴选,与志愿者精神相抵触,引发了社区分裂” - Linda Wu
How could you let someone like Zheng Qi be the principal of a school? She didn't even hesitate using the "B" word in front of school age children. Do you honestly believe this person can qualify to be a principal? It's so unfortunate for the school that she was the dean for many years.
Delete去年以前俺也不知ZZ真面目。江湖传言总把另一方说得一无是处。
Delete自从ZZ被否,从我所亲眼看到的她们的种种表现来看,从前的江湖传言不可信。否决她们实为正确决定。
耳听为虚,眼见为实,千年古训,不可不记。
同感。
DeleteHu Dapeng sent a letter to the Board saying "What the FUCK", what a great principal he is???!!!
Delete" 有关法律诉讼的问答" ----My vview on it
ReplyDelete大家好,
有一部电影叫《〈步步惊心〉》,电影没看过,名字记住了。我们中文学校也正在上演这样的戏。每一次我都会想下一步有什么。每一次都是最坏的情况在发生。这百分之百的命中率,要是彩票就好了。在被文革了大半年了以后,5/15的时光列车一下把我们带回到了国民党白色恐怖时代,那一个心凉啊。
星期天我到中文学校去问财务长按学校的校章,被告的自愿者学校不是应付他们的应诉费吗?李盛京董事在旁边马上接话说,那可不一定,要看他们是不是有good faith. 我说被告的董事又不是为自己,他们一直在为中文学校有一个新的开始而努力,当然是good faith了。他说我们说了不算,法庭说了才算。 看,在我们的老校长那里校章也不过是一页废纸。他还说董事长就需要做两件事,一是通过budget,二是选出校长,他都做到了。是啊他做到了,学校也乱了一年多了。
回到5/22 的“问答”。这次我们从后往前说。
“Q5Q6”:董事会为什么会成立SVC,采用公开投票和邮寄方式,大家可以查询3月,4月学校的newsletter 和董事会发布的消息而找到第一手资料。我想说的是Hu/Liu本人就是上届董事会以SVC的方式选出来的。而邮寄投票是我们胡校长/刘家长会长亲自首创的。他们做的时候就是堂堂正正,干干净净。别人做的时候就是违法和不干不净了。这要需要多大的自信和骄傲才能完成这唯我独尊的逻辑。
“Q4”:我把bylaw里Indemnification 条款拷贝在这里。大家自己看我们将来是不是必须得买这个单。这个单也是告人者迫使我们付的。Hu/liu告人这是他们的自由,但是他们凭什么用中文学校的名义告自愿者。如果说中文学校是我们家长大家的,他们告人问过我们吗?董事会是中文学校的法人,这上法庭的事他们通过董事会了吗?如果这是在他们律师的咨询下的做法,那么这种“法人在法人不知道的情况下把法人自己告了”的悖论,会在华人社区永垂不朽的。要是以中文学校的名义,那么是不是中文学校现在或将来必须得给他们付告人费呢?我相信财务长不会同意给他们付这个钱的,不过保险起见,下次上课我还是要去问问。
“Q3“:。。。。。。(无言,请大家看他们的诉讼原稿。)
“Q2”:这是最让我生气的一条。我们被文革了大半年,现在又被带入了白色恐怖之中。还来告诉我们是为了学校为了我们。收起来吧,校规也不过是对别人,不对他们自己。星期天在停车场,有一个家长拉住我说了半天。她说她已经有一个月没来中文学校了,她心脏不好,不想来添堵。她说大家都是朋友,孩子一起长大的人现在因为这些事都不说话了。这就是中文学校的现状。我现在和别人说话也是小心翼翼,多年的老朋友也不敢联系提及这些事,怕大家意见不一样,反而作不了朋友了。这么压抑的环境怪不得这么多人在考虑离开。运动他们搞,法庭他们上,还说要维持学校的良好风气,真是苍天有眼。
“Q1”:BAC完全由一般中立家长组成,他们中有大学教授,很多是有法律专业背景的。可是也许正因为如此,他们修改bylaw的旅程走得特别的难。大家可以到http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HXNYBylawsCom/links 上去看看,有多少对BAC成员的攻击,有些还是学校领导针对他们人格的而不是他们修改的bylaw。也许大家都还记得在开学之初,他们为了自己进入BAC展开的运动,还有后来他们在学校的newsletter上连续几周对新bylaw随意的歪曲,误导和用捏造的事实对新bylaw进行抨击。我一直不理解为什么他们一定要这样对新bylaw进行围攻堵截,有时根本不是因为什么条款有问题,我原以为他们是为了自己的主张得到承认而为之的。可是要是大家都是为了中文学校好,为什么要大打出手呢?现在看来不全是。去年他们花了钱上了法庭,在中间家长的努力下谈和,大家带着善良的愿望,希望把bylaw改好,从新开始。可是因为BAC没有包括他们的人,他们好不容易花了钱得到的主动权被人拿走,那还不急疯了。这也是人之常情,不难理解。有的时候真相就在一些简单的道理里面。他们所谓的协商,也就是不要新bylaw通过,要在他们的领导下在下面一年里进行改写。
今年他们又再次把自愿者告上了法庭,从他们自己的钱包里出来的钱将会更多。去年他们快速地撤诉,并没有等到法庭做出公正的裁决。可是今年难办了,撤诉意味着新bylaw的通过,不撤意味着花的钱将比去年多。那么心理的不平衡将会更大,那么将来我们,我们中的自愿者将更没有安全。以后只有这几种人在中文学校有安全:
1. 有几十万没地方用的钱,不怕他们告的人;
2. 为他们告自愿者捐款的人;
3. 现在或将来都不会和他们有意见不同的人。
周英,同样的东西来回贴有意思吗?让你问问朱立4/15SVC的投票有没有作弊你怎么不问?当天收到多少票?4/15以后收到多少邮寄票?
Delete去年的SVC和今年的SVC有什么异同?只说表面不说全部事实。你们帮派的人都是同样的特点。
DeleteOne question for all the candidates is whether they will follow the school bylaws (old or new) and protect its integrity as what Hu/Liu have done? Let's hear their answer and we'll know.
ReplyDelete对。家长会现在可以把选举的Forum开出来。等候选人名单出来了让大家提问。
DeleteHu/Liu - protect bylaw integrity?
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开什么玩笑?你别把 Hu/Liu 再往火坑里推了,Hu/Liu, 违反bylaw (new or old) 的行为一箩筐一箩筐的。要大家一一数来。
同志们,朋友们:让 我们有钱出钱,有力出力,干到把胡大鹏刘雅文周清李盛京雷
ReplyDelete明辉赶下台那一天, 正义的阳光一定会重新照耀华夏纽约的上空!
现在我们有足够的资金打赢这场官司。我们暂时不再接受一千元以下的捐款。 谢谢
同志们。
李建仁: 俩万美金。
郑固团:一万五千美金。
胡保年: 一万美金。
沈兆麟:八千美金。
刘伟/王硕:六千美金。
郑琦: 六千美金。
周爱平: 五千美金。
周英: 五千美金。
戴杨:五千美金。
田肇基:五千美金。
李晓京:五千美金。
BAC 成员每人承诺各捐款三千美金 (大部分已到帐)。
黑色恐怖? HXNY的黑势力要拼命了。
DeleteWow! 要加入帮派还真代价昂贵!那黑心律师还真能坑不懂法律的中国人,要他们出这么多血汗钱到法庭上去打打不赢的官司。
Delete终于说出了真正的目的:干到把胡大鹏刘雅文周清李盛京雷明辉赶下台那一天。
Delete什么改校章,都是为这最终目的服务的。
什么时候把学校,孩子的利益放在第一位了?
胡家班流氓,这EMIAIL不是你们的人写的吗?还造谣谁谁谁捐款几钱?有你们这么撒流氓的吗?写完了还嫁祸于人。
Delete哈,贼喊捉贼! 朱家班的人不过虚张声势,自己给自己壮胆,意淫而已。
Delete这EMIAIL不是你们的人写的吗?
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看来你知道这是EMAIL,朱家班的EMAIL。
胡大鹏看来是没本事,如他有本事,中文学校不会像现在这样一团糟,人斗人,四分五裂。还是战国时代!会有秦始皇出现吗?
ReplyDelete李建仁是秦始皇。朱立是秦二世。可惜兔子尾巴长不了。民主的潮流是谁都阻挡不住的。
Delete民主的潮流是谁都阻挡不住的。
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你算是说对了, 就是不知你的脑袋是怎么长的。 谁民主?谁不民主?
五董,胡大鹏,反民主。。。
胡大鹏主张的是自由选举。朱立4董和李建仁要的是限制性选举。谁民主?谁不民主?
Delete现在不是民主不民主的问题了, 而是谁欺骗了法庭?
Delete法庭材料俺看了二遍。通篇多是胡/刘要进董事会,说自己受到了伤害,难道你说胡大鹏为了个人私利连法庭都敢骗?!
他要主张自由选举,为啥连LIMITEDVOTING提也不提。法庭上的材料里没有。 别“醉汉之意不在酒”。。。胡大鹏再为自己辨护也没用,白纸黑字写在那里。洋洋洒洒80页。他敢说这不是他要的,80页全是假的吗?他敢吗?我靠!
连法庭都敢欺骗的人能做校长?
给我们孩子们树立一个啥耪样??
你们还要跟着他一起闹???
还有没有脑子?有没有脑子????
博士硕士白学了吗?????
俺每周日看到胡大鹏刘雅文就脸红。俺一再琢磨他们是啥材料做的,皮咋会这么厚?想着想着,自己到先不好意思了。。。
ReplyDelete华夏学校从去年闹到现在又回到法律诉讼上, 一年内美国总统都可以选完了, 我们联个校规都没有完成, 花了不少学校的午饭钱不说, 什么问题也没有解决. 去年胡大鹏的校长选举合不合法不说, 他表示一定以学校的利益为重, 凭心说, 他们学校工作干的还不错, 但是今年又来了个恶人先告状,又把学校带入危机. 一年完不成, 说明你们所有的人能力都有问题, 都没有以学校和学生的利益为重, 全他妈的该辞职. 那几个脸皮特厚, 特无廉耻感的李盛京, 周箐,雷明辉等就是学校动乱的根源. 在本职工作中找不到快感和高潮, 跑到中文学校来来捣乱,耍点淫威, 口口声声说辞, 到现在也没辞职. 我XXXX!
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